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Minutes - WS-Addressing Test Suite TF call 26 January 2006

From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:24:25 -0000
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  David Illsley (IBM)
  Mike Vernal (Microsoft)
  Jonathan Marsh (Microsoft)
  Arun Gupta (Sun) 
  Paul Downey (BT)

pauld: OK, where do we go from here?
arun: start publishing public endpoints!
arun: Sun's: http://soapinterop.java.sun.com:8080/index.html
public endpoints: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/endpoints/
pauld: will contact giovani, invite him to join
jonathan: suspects sun, IBM and Microsoft are likely to be all be green or good enough to be discussed at Cannes
.. understands that Glen is pretty tied up for the next few weeks
discussion: do we have enough implementations?
.. Sonic is only SOAP 1.1 at the moment
.. which might not be good enough for CR
arun: Sonic did mention at the F2F possible SOAP 1.2 in the near future
jonathan: is there anywhere else we can drum up support?
pauld: could be motivate to provide one, but we should flag this up to the community
arun: others may be interested
jonathan: WSO2 might be a source of effort

jonathan: spells out missing parts, refresh endpoints; implement optional and other tests; analyse red boxes
jonathan: offers help turn red boxes green, particularly where cause may be log file weirdness
Arun: would like to refresh his logs, in particular sun to sun
pauld: offers assistance in helping people run the observer themselves
jonathan: want's to improve report generation to include merger of override where errors introduced by the harness, or is deemed 'good enough'
pauld: happy to accept fresh logs and re-run the report
mike: at the event we periodically regenerated the reports, can we have that now?
pauld: babbles incoherently about why that might be tricky
pauld: would need log files to be available at a publicly visible uri
.. what can we do for next week?
.. seems like we'll have public endpoints refreshed by early next week
pauld: .. we should work towards having a refreshed report to discuss on thursday

David: outlines issue with 1233
david: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/testcases/#test1233
david: http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/#faultcodes
david: problem seems to be with the XPath
pauld: .. 1234 has the same problem
pauld: agreed to change the XPath on these two issues?
mike: distinction between SOAP 1.1 and 1.2  here
jonathan: there's ambiguity in SOAP 1.1 and we should allow  vendors to send either case
pauld: david is press-ganged into providing some simple test message examples to express this problem
arun: I need to log off early today, so will be logging out now

jonathan: what about the new test cases? will they case problems?
david: could raise issues with SOAP processing, in particular 1248 is tricky to send
.. would need a canned interaction
pauld: still keen to publish a canned implementation ..

mike: what's the difference between OPTIONAL and INFORMATIONAL
pauld: INFORMATIONAL not required for CR
jonathan: will create a third bucket on the report for INFORMATIONAL tests

discussion of issues list, rolling agendas and task lists.
pauld: happy to track list of tasks on the end of the minutes/agendas

   .. let's keep up the momentum from the F2F ..

Current aim: to have a green report for Cannes, 27th February!


Task List:
    all: update your public endpoints ASAP
    all: provide logs on the Web (HTTPS/BA secured if necessary)
    pauld: flag possible lack of 4 working implementations to the WG
    all: solicit resource / additional implementations
    pauld: will contact giovani, invite him to join our calls
    david: to send simple example messages for SOAP faultcodes to the list
    pauld: to resolve XPaths for faultcodes in 1133,1233, 1134,1234
    jonathan: separate OPTIONAL/INFORMATIONAL on the report
    jonathan: allow certain results to be overridden with qualification
    pauld: will publish his canned endpoint
    pauld: will work on automatically refreshing the report

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