- From: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 19:41:42 +0200
- To: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>
- Cc: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Julee AtAdobe <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org
Link to the blog post preview is here: http://blog.webplatform.org/?p=381&preview=true Chris Mills Opera Software, dev.opera.com W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) On 14 May 2013, at 19:28, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> wrote: > Corrected my contact link and removed Chris' note that it pointed to him. > > Keep me posted on the blog. > > Thanks, > > Eliot > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Mills [mailto:cmills@opera.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:23 AM >> To: Julee Burdekin; Doug Schepers; Julee AtAdobe; Scott Rowe; Janet >> Swisher; public-webplatform@w3.org >> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three tables >> >> I've also finished the main list on the WPDW page: >> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday#15_May_ >> 2013 >> >> Now starting the blog post - phew! >> >> Chris Mills >> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3: >> Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >> >> On 14 May 2013, at 19:06, Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> oops, I just corrected the date on the page: >>> >>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013- >> 05-1 >>> 5 >>> >>> Chris Mills >>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical >>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>> >>> On 14 May 2013, at 19:03, Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Cool - thanks! >>>> >>>> I've just finished creating the weekly page: see >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05- >> 13. Can I get someone to check it? >>>> >>>> ta! >>>> >>>> Chris Mills >>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical >>>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>>> >>>> On 14 May 2013, at 18:17, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Chris: I'll take one group on. J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> julee@adobe.com >>>>> @adobejulee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:52 AM >>>>> To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Scott >>>>> Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, >>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three >>>>> tables >>>>> >>>>>> I've looked through the Google spreadsheet, and picked these >>>>>> properties for this week (23 in total), which are all in somewhat >>>>>> unfinished states according to the spreadsheet >>>>>> >>>>>> border-image >>>>>> border-image-outset >>>>>> border-image-repeat >>>>>> border-image-slice >>>>>> border-image-source >>>>>> border-image-width >>>>>> >>>>>> break-after >>>>>> break-before >>>>>> break-inside >>>>>> flow-from >>>>>> flow-into >>>>>> >>>>>> font >>>>>> font-family >>>>>> font-feature-settings >>>>>> font-size >>>>>> font-size-adjust >>>>>> font-style >>>>>> font-variant >>>>>> font-weight >>>>>> >>>>>> list-style >>>>>> list-style-image >>>>>> list-style-position >>>>>> list-style-type >>>>>> >>>>>> These form 4 distinct groups, which I think work well together as >>>>>> separate pieces of work. >>>>>> >>>>>> ok? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Mills >>>>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>>>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical >>>>>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 May 2013, at 17:27, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've read through this thread, and have ended up being confused as >>>>>>> to what to do for this week's WPDW. For now, until a decision is >>>>>>> made, shall I just choose the properties from the master google >>>>>>> spreadsheet, and then fill in my choices for the week in a new >>>>>>> section on >>>>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday, >> and >>>>>>> in a new page at >>>>>>> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05- >> 15 ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Mills >>>>>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>>>>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical >>>>>>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14 May 2013, at 00:23, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Julee, Scott- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott's right that the Master List is hard to edit (as are all >>>>>>>> tables of any size in MediaWiki...). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about a compromise where we just redo the spreadsheet to >> have >>>>>>>> the right fields, and have the coordinators edit that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That way, we reduce the complexity of the task for coordinators, >>>>>>>> and still shield the regular contributors from dealing with the >>>>>>>> intimidating Bid Spreadsheet? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do like Julee's solution of an autogenerated final list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ultimately, so long as we preserve the bite-size morsels for the >>>>>>>> contributors, I don't mind how we deal with the coordinator >>>>>>>> tasks. The workflow shouldn't get in our way, it should help us focus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (That said, I personally like the sortable Master List... it >>>>>>>> helped me decide what the topic areas should be for the first >>>>>>>> week.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards- >>>>>>>> -Doug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/13 5:53 PM, Julee wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, Scott: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think Doug didn't want to use that spreadsheet anymore. It >>>>>>>>> doesn't have the tasks broken out and it was felt that its >>>>>>>>> complexity is preventing folks from contributing. The 3 >>>>>>>>> different tables were created to provide simpler, more >>>>>>>>> manageable views. In the wiki, these different views can only be >>>>>>>>> generated by creating different tables. Maintenance, then, >>>>>>>>> becomes painful and time-consuming. The weekly spreadsheet >>>>>>>>> doesn't have the priority or the the standards, and the the >>>>>>>>> master doesn't have notes. Otherwise, we could just rebuild the >>>>>>>>> master list from the weekly tables. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If we could have the same fields in the weekly table and the >>>>>>>>> master table, we could call the master the to-do list. Then from >>>>>>>>> the weekly tables, we could simply concatenate them into a master >> "finished" >>>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think once we have done a property, we need to keep >>>>>>>>> pointer to the spec (as that information would be on the page). >>>>>>>>> That would mean the only difference between the master and the >>>>>>>>> weekly would be the priority < which is something we might need >>>>>>>>> a record of. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *How about if we add the priority to the end of the weekly check >>>>>>>>> list?* >>>>>>>>> The data is preserved, but it won't bother coordinators, which >>>>>>>>> is the concern with adding too many columns. The to-do and the >> "finished" >>>>>>>>> tables would not be the same, but no critical data would be lost. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Then, the workflow would be:* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * The decider moves the current week's properties out of the >>>>>>>>> master to weekly page >>>>>>>>> * The coordinators update the weekly page with usernames and >>>>>>>>> notes >>>>>>>>> * As the properties get finished, the coordinators copy the line >>>>>>>>> items from the weekly page to the "finished" table >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>> julee@adobe.com >>>>>>>>> @adobejulee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:12 PM >>>>>>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>>>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, >>>>>>>>> Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, >> Janet >>>>>>>>> Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>>>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public- >> webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>>>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public- >> webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all >>>>>>>>> three tables >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Julee, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The original spreadsheet: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRs- >> 89PKiZpdE0xdm9 >>>>>>>>> Sb1ZvRW >>>>>>>>> 1ZRzMtWEdyU0Z4OEE#gid=14 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is just a lot easier to work with. The weekly tables are >>>>>>>>> okay, not a problem to work with. But the larger, "master_list" >>>>>>>>> is so large that working with it in wiki is very difficult. >>>>>>>>> That's why I recommend using the original spreadsheet to track >>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Scott >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What spreadsheet are you keeping up to date? This one: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/201 >>>>>>>>> 3-05-08 >>>>>>>>> #Border_color_properties >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Julee >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> @adobejulee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:21 AM >>>>>>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>>>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, >>>>>>>>> Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, >> Janet >>>>>>>>> Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>>>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public- >> webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>>>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public- >> webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all >>>>>>>>> three tables >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to suggest that we reduce the paperwork for >>>>>>>>> coordinators here by eliminating the last "master_list" table. >>>>>>>>> This table is nearly impossible to edit quickly and easily. We >>>>>>>>> already have a spreadsheet that is far easier to work with, and >>>>>>>>> I'd suggest we stick with it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It may be possible to populate the "master_list" table with >>>>>>>>> transclusions from the other tables, but I don't have time right >>>>>>>>> now to work on that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, I've continued to keep the spreadsheet up to date >>>>>>>>> with my changes, and IMO, it works better than the giant >> "master_list" >>>>>>>>> table in the wiki. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Scott >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, WPDW coordinators: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * update WPDW main page[1] with assigned items having check >>>>>>>>> marks >>>>>>>>> * update this week's page [2] with status >>>>>>>>> * update master list [3] when things are done >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Julee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_Wednesday >>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05- >> 08 >>>>>>>>> [3] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/mas >>>>>>>>> ter_lis >>>>>>>>> t >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >>>>>>>>> @adobejulee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >
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