- From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 19:06:37 +0200
- To: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
- Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Julee AtAdobe <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org
oops, I just corrected the date on the page: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-15 Chris Mills Opera Software, dev.opera.com W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) On 14 May 2013, at 19:03, Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> wrote: > Cool - thanks! > > I've just finished creating the weekly page: see http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-13. Can I get someone to check it? > > ta! > > Chris Mills > Opera Software, dev.opera.com > W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org > Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) > > On 14 May 2013, at 18:17, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Chris: I'll take one group on. J >> >> >> ---------------------------- >> julee@adobe.com >> @adobejulee >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> >> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:52 AM >> To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe >> <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, >> "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org> >> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three tables >> >>> I've looked through the Google spreadsheet, and picked these properties >>> for this week (23 in total), which are all in somewhat unfinished states >>> according to the spreadsheet >>> >>> border-image >>> border-image-outset >>> border-image-repeat >>> border-image-slice >>> border-image-source >>> border-image-width >>> >>> break-after >>> break-before >>> break-inside >>> flow-from >>> flow-into >>> >>> font >>> font-family >>> font-feature-settings >>> font-size >>> font-size-adjust >>> font-style >>> font-variant >>> font-weight >>> >>> list-style >>> list-style-image >>> list-style-position >>> list-style-type >>> >>> These form 4 distinct groups, which I think work well together as >>> separate pieces of work. >>> >>> ok? >>> >>> Chris Mills >>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org >>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>> >>> On 14 May 2013, at 17:27, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've read through this thread, and have ended up being confused as to >>>> what to do for this week's WPDW. For now, until a decision is made, >>>> shall I just choose the properties from the master google spreadsheet, >>>> and then fill in my choices for the week in a new section on >>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday, and in a >>>> new page at >>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-15 ? >>>> >>>> Chris Mills >>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org >>>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>>> >>>> On 14 May 2013, at 00:23, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Julee, Scott- >>>>> >>>>> Scott's right that the Master List is hard to edit (as are all tables >>>>> of any size in MediaWiki...). >>>>> >>>>> How about a compromise where we just redo the spreadsheet to have the >>>>> right fields, and have the coordinators edit that? >>>>> >>>>> That way, we reduce the complexity of the task for coordinators, and >>>>> still shield the regular contributors from dealing with the >>>>> intimidating Bid Spreadsheet? >>>>> >>>>> I do like Julee's solution of an autogenerated final list. >>>>> >>>>> Ultimately, so long as we preserve the bite-size morsels for the >>>>> contributors, I don't mind how we deal with the coordinator tasks. The >>>>> workflow shouldn't get in our way, it should help us focus. >>>>> >>>>> (That said, I personally like the sortable Master List... it helped me >>>>> decide what the topic areas should be for the first week.) >>>>> >>>>> Regards- >>>>> -Doug >>>>> >>>>> On 5/13/13 5:53 PM, Julee wrote: >>>>>> Hi, Scott: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Doug didn't want to use that spreadsheet anymore. It doesn't >>>>>> have the tasks broken out and it was felt that its complexity is >>>>>> preventing folks from contributing. The 3 different tables were >>>>>> created >>>>>> to provide simpler, more manageable views. In the wiki, these >>>>>> different >>>>>> views can only be generated by creating different tables. Maintenance, >>>>>> then, becomes painful and time-consuming. The weekly spreadsheet >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> have the priority or the the standards, and the the master doesn't >>>>>> have >>>>>> notes. Otherwise, we could just rebuild the master list from the >>>>>> weekly >>>>>> tables. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we could have the same fields in the weekly table and the master >>>>>> table, we could call the master the to-do list. Then from the weekly >>>>>> tables, we could simply concatenate them into a master "finished" >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think once we have done a property, we need to keep pointer to >>>>>> the spec (as that information would be on the page). That would mean >>>>>> the >>>>>> only difference between the master and the weekly would be the >>>>>> priority >>>>>> ‹ which is something we might need a record of. >>>>>> >>>>>> *How about if we add the priority to the end of the weekly check >>>>>> list?* >>>>>> The data is preserved, but it won't bother coordinators, which is the >>>>>> concern with adding too many columns. The to-do and the "finished" >>>>>> tables would not be the same, but no critical data would be lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Then, the workflow would be:* >>>>>> >>>>>> * The decider moves the current week's properties out of the master to >>>>>> weekly page >>>>>> * The coordinators update the weekly page with usernames and notes >>>>>> * As the properties get finished, the coordinators copy the line items >>>>>> from the weekly page to the "finished" table >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> J >>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>> julee@adobe.com >>>>>> @adobejulee >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:12 PM >>>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >>>>>> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >>>>>> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three >>>>>> tables >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Julee, >>>>>> >>>>>> The original spreadsheet: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRs-89PKiZpdE0xdm9Sb1ZvRW >>>>>> 1ZRzMtWEdyU0Z4OEE#gid=14 >>>>>> >>>>>> This is just a lot easier to work with. The weekly tables are okay, >>>>>> not >>>>>> a problem to work with. But the larger, "master_list" is so large that >>>>>> working with it in wiki is very difficult. That's why I recommend >>>>>> using >>>>>> the original spreadsheet to track results. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What spreadsheet are you keeping up to date? This one: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08 >>>>>> #Border_color_properties >>>>>> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Julee >>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >>>>>> @adobejulee >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com >>>>>> <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:21 AM >>>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >>>>>> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >>>>>> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three >>>>>> tables >>>>>> >>>>>> Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to suggest that we reduce the paperwork for coordinators >>>>>> here by eliminating the last "master_list" table. This table is >>>>>> nearly impossible to edit quickly and easily. We already have a >>>>>> spreadsheet that is far easier to work with, and I'd suggest we >>>>>> stick with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> It may be possible to populate the "master_list" table with >>>>>> transclusions from the other tables, but I don't have time right now >>>>>> to work on that. >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, I've continued to keep the spreadsheet up to date with >>>>>> my changes, and IMO, it works better than the giant "master_list" >>>>>> table in the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, WPDW coordinators: >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to: >>>>>> >>>>>> * update WPDW main page[1] with assigned items having check >>>>>> marks >>>>>> * update this week's page [2] with status >>>>>> * update master list [3] when things are done >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Julee >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_Wednesday >>>>>> [2] >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08 >>>>>> [3] >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_lis >>>>>> t >>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >>>>>> @adobejulee >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
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