- From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 19:03:51 +0200
- To: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
- Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Julee AtAdobe <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org
Cool - thanks! I've just finished creating the weekly page: see http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-13. Can I get someone to check it? ta! Chris Mills Opera Software, dev.opera.com W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) On 14 May 2013, at 18:17, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote: > Hi, Chris: I'll take one group on. J > > > ---------------------------- > julee@adobe.com > @adobejulee > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mills <cmills@w3.org> > Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:52 AM > To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe > <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, > "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org> > Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three tables > >> I've looked through the Google spreadsheet, and picked these properties >> for this week (23 in total), which are all in somewhat unfinished states >> according to the spreadsheet >> >> border-image >> border-image-outset >> border-image-repeat >> border-image-slice >> border-image-source >> border-image-width >> >> break-after >> break-before >> break-inside >> flow-from >> flow-into >> >> font >> font-family >> font-feature-settings >> font-size >> font-size-adjust >> font-style >> font-variant >> font-weight >> >> list-style >> list-style-image >> list-style-position >> list-style-type >> >> These form 4 distinct groups, which I think work well together as >> separate pieces of work. >> >> ok? >> >> Chris Mills >> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org >> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >> >> On 14 May 2013, at 17:27, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote: >> >>> I've read through this thread, and have ended up being confused as to >>> what to do for this week's WPDW. For now, until a decision is made, >>> shall I just choose the properties from the master google spreadsheet, >>> and then fill in my choices for the week in a new section on >>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday, and in a >>> new page at >>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-15 ? >>> >>> Chris Mills >>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com >>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org >>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) >>> >>> On 14 May 2013, at 00:23, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Julee, Scott- >>>> >>>> Scott's right that the Master List is hard to edit (as are all tables >>>> of any size in MediaWiki...). >>>> >>>> How about a compromise where we just redo the spreadsheet to have the >>>> right fields, and have the coordinators edit that? >>>> >>>> That way, we reduce the complexity of the task for coordinators, and >>>> still shield the regular contributors from dealing with the >>>> intimidating Bid Spreadsheet? >>>> >>>> I do like Julee's solution of an autogenerated final list. >>>> >>>> Ultimately, so long as we preserve the bite-size morsels for the >>>> contributors, I don't mind how we deal with the coordinator tasks. The >>>> workflow shouldn't get in our way, it should help us focus. >>>> >>>> (That said, I personally like the sortable Master List... it helped me >>>> decide what the topic areas should be for the first week.) >>>> >>>> Regards- >>>> -Doug >>>> >>>> On 5/13/13 5:53 PM, Julee wrote: >>>>> Hi, Scott: >>>>> >>>>> I think Doug didn't want to use that spreadsheet anymore. It doesn't >>>>> have the tasks broken out and it was felt that its complexity is >>>>> preventing folks from contributing. The 3 different tables were >>>>> created >>>>> to provide simpler, more manageable views. In the wiki, these >>>>> different >>>>> views can only be generated by creating different tables. Maintenance, >>>>> then, becomes painful and time-consuming. The weekly spreadsheet >>>>> doesn't >>>>> have the priority or the the standards, and the the master doesn't >>>>> have >>>>> notes. Otherwise, we could just rebuild the master list from the >>>>> weekly >>>>> tables. >>>>> >>>>> If we could have the same fields in the weekly table and the master >>>>> table, we could call the master the to-do list. Then from the weekly >>>>> tables, we could simply concatenate them into a master "finished" >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think once we have done a property, we need to keep pointer to >>>>> the spec (as that information would be on the page). That would mean >>>>> the >>>>> only difference between the master and the weekly would be the >>>>> priority >>>>> ‹ which is something we might need a record of. >>>>> >>>>> *How about if we add the priority to the end of the weekly check >>>>> list?* >>>>> The data is preserved, but it won't bother coordinators, which is the >>>>> concern with adding too many columns. The to-do and the "finished" >>>>> tables would not be the same, but no critical data would be lost. >>>>> >>>>> *Then, the workflow would be:* >>>>> >>>>> * The decider moves the current week's properties out of the master to >>>>> weekly page >>>>> * The coordinators update the weekly page with usernames and notes >>>>> * As the properties get finished, the coordinators copy the line items >>>>> from the weekly page to the "finished" table >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> julee@adobe.com >>>>> @adobejulee >>>>> >>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:12 PM >>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >>>>> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >>>>> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three >>>>> tables >>>>> >>>>> Hi Julee, >>>>> >>>>> The original spreadsheet: >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRs-89PKiZpdE0xdm9Sb1ZvRW >>>>> 1ZRzMtWEdyU0Z4OEE#gid=14 >>>>> >>>>> This is just a lot easier to work with. The weekly tables are okay, >>>>> not >>>>> a problem to work with. But the larger, "master_list" is so large that >>>>> working with it in wiki is very difficult. That's why I recommend >>>>> using >>>>> the original spreadsheet to track results. >>>>> >>>>> ~Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What spreadsheet are you keeping up to date? This one: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08 >>>>> #Border_color_properties >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Julee >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >>>>> @adobejulee >>>>> >>>>> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com >>>>> <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >>>>> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:21 AM >>>>> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >>>>> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >>>>> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >>>>> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >>>>> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >>>>> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >>>>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three >>>>> tables >>>>> >>>>> Folks, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to suggest that we reduce the paperwork for coordinators >>>>> here by eliminating the last "master_list" table. This table is >>>>> nearly impossible to edit quickly and easily. We already have a >>>>> spreadsheet that is far easier to work with, and I'd suggest we >>>>> stick with it. >>>>> >>>>> It may be possible to populate the "master_list" table with >>>>> transclusions from the other tables, but I don't have time right now >>>>> to work on that. >>>>> >>>>> In any case, I've continued to keep the spreadsheet up to date with >>>>> my changes, and IMO, it works better than the giant "master_list" >>>>> table in the wiki. >>>>> >>>>> ~Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >>>>> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, WPDW coordinators: >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to: >>>>> >>>>> * update WPDW main page[1] with assigned items having check >>>>> marks >>>>> * update this week's page [2] with status >>>>> * update master list [3] when things are done >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Julee >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_Wednesday >>>>> [2] >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08 >>>>> [3] >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_lis >>>>> t >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >>>>> @adobejulee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >
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