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Re: Beta criteria for Community Development

From: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:14:57 +0200
Cc: wpd@theherzes.com, public-webplatform@w3.org
Message-Id: <E2DBF4D4-2F8E-4FBF-835A-2189DFED7D7D@opera.com>
To: Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>
Agreed - that's a great way to frame it.

Chris Mills
Opera Software, dev.opera.com
W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)

On 9 May 2013, at 20:43, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com> wrote:

> I think we can add a bit about "why join" to the WPD:Community page, without overselling it. I'd rather inspire people with  vision than bribe them with goodies.
> 
> On 5/9/13 2:25 AM, David R. Herz wrote:
>> That's about right.  As I said it's just about letting them know we're here
>> and inviting them to play.
>> 
>> David R. Herz
>> 
>> wpd@theherzes.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Mills [
>> mailto:cmills@opera.com
>> ] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:27 AM
>> To: 
>> wpd@theherzes.com
>> 
>> Cc: Janet Swisher; 
>> public-webplatform@w3.org
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Beta criteria for Community Development
>> 
>> I think it is all about how you word it. We obviously don't want to say
>> "What do we give you in return? As a volunteer you get limitless power and
>> free snacks .. etc."
>> 
>> But we could say
>> 
>> "As a volunteer, you will get a chance to create better documentation for
>> open standards, to help thousands of others learn. You will be able to help
>> others with their documentation efforts, and administrate pages .. etc."
>> 
>> Give them a hint as to what they will get, but say it in a positive,
>> non-assuming way.?
>> 
>> Chris Mills
>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3:
>> Develop and Design" (
>> http://goo.gl/AKf9M
>> )
>> 
>> On 9 May 2013, at 02:32, "David R. Herz" 
>> <WPD@theherzes.com>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I disagree about the whole telling people what they will get thing.
>>> 
>> People are here either because they have an interest or it's their job to
>> be.  There is nothing to sell.  There is just letting people know it's here
>> so that they can come play in our sandbox.
>> 
>>>  
>>> David R. Herz
>>> 
>>> wpd@theherzes.com
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Janet Swisher [
>>> mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com
>>> ]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:24 AM
>>> To: 
>>> public-webplatform@w3.org
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Beta criteria for Community Development
>>>  
>>> I added this item:
>>> 
>>> * Benefits of contributing to WPD are articulated and are communicated to
>>> 
>> new members.
>> 
>>> But can you give me an idea of what kinds of benefits and perks you're
>>> 
>> thinking of?
>> 
>>> Is it intangibles like:
>>> * Learn about web standards technologies as you help document them
>>> * Feel satisfaction from knowing you're contributing to improving the 
>>> state of web standards documentation for all web developers
>>> * Build relationships with an international open team of webdev and 
>>> techcom professionals
>>> 
>>> Or things like:
>>> * Earn nifty badges
>>> * Score cool swag
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> --Janet
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/8/13 4:18 AM, Chris Mills wrote:
>>> Looks good Janet. The only thing I thought you might want to explicitly
>>> 
>> state is something about clearly stating the perks/benefits of contributing
>> to the community - community members will want to be clear on what the
>> incentives are.
>> 
>>>  
>>> So perhaps something like
>>>  
>>> "Work out and implement mechanisms for giving community members
>>> 
>> perks/benefits when they contribute to WPD. Make it clear what those
>> benefits are to prospective new members."
>> 
>>>  
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> Chris Mills
>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical 
>>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (
>>> http://goo.gl/AKf9M
>>> )
>>>  
>>> On 8 May 2013, at 00:08, Janet Swisher 
>>> <jswisher@mozilla.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>> I've taken a stab at setting criteria for declaring "Beta" for Community
>>> 
>> Development [1]. It seems a little weird to use a label like "Beta" for a
>> community, but I'm taking it mean that the community is moving from the
>> "inception" stage to the "establishment" stage of the community life cycle.
>> A big part of that is implementing capture and tracking of metrics so we can
>> tell which stage we're in.
>> 
>>>  
>>> If these criteria look good, I'll submit issues in Bug Genie for 
>>> implementing them. (I'm not even sure that what I want can be done 
>>> with mailman and MediaWiki; we can discuss that in the BG issues.)
>>>  
>>> [1] 
>>> 
>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Project_Status#Goals_for_Communit
>>> 
>>> y
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Janet Swisher
> Mozilla Developer Network
> Developer Engagement Community Organizer
Received on Friday, 10 May 2013 08:15:36 UTC

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