Re: Beta criteria for Community Development

I think we can add a bit about "why join" to the WPD:Community page, 
without overselling it. I'd rather inspire people with  vision than 
bribe them with goodies.

On 5/9/13 2:25 AM, David R. Herz wrote:
> That's about right.  As I said it's just about letting them know we're here
> and inviting them to play.
>
> David R. Herz
> wpd@theherzes.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Mills [mailto:cmills@opera.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:27 AM
> To: wpd@theherzes.com
> Cc: Janet Swisher; public-webplatform@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Beta criteria for Community Development
>
> I think it is all about how you word it. We obviously don't want to say
> "What do we give you in return? As a volunteer you get limitless power and
> free snacks .. etc."
>
> But we could say
>
> "As a volunteer, you will get a chance to create better documentation for
> open standards, to help thousands of others learn. You will be able to help
> others with their documentation efforts, and administrate pages .. etc."
>
> Give them a hint as to what they will get, but say it in a positive,
> non-assuming way.?
>
> Chris Mills
> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3:
> Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
>
> On 9 May 2013, at 02:32, "David R. Herz" <WPD@theherzes.com> wrote:
>
>> I disagree about the whole telling people what they will get thing.
> People are here either because they have an interest or it's their job to
> be.  There is nothing to sell.  There is just letting people know it's here
> so that they can come play in our sandbox.
>>   
>> David R. Herz
>> wpd@theherzes.com
>>   
>> From: Janet Swisher [mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:24 AM
>> To: public-webplatform@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Beta criteria for Community Development
>>   
>> I added this item:
>>
>> * Benefits of contributing to WPD are articulated and are communicated to
> new members.
>> But can you give me an idea of what kinds of benefits and perks you're
> thinking of?
>> Is it intangibles like:
>> * Learn about web standards technologies as you help document them
>> * Feel satisfaction from knowing you're contributing to improving the
>> state of web standards documentation for all web developers
>> * Build relationships with an international open team of webdev and
>> techcom professionals
>>
>> Or things like:
>> * Earn nifty badges
>> * Score cool swag
>> ?
>>
>> --Janet
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/13 4:18 AM, Chris Mills wrote:
>> Looks good Janet. The only thing I thought you might want to explicitly
> state is something about clearly stating the perks/benefits of contributing
> to the community - community members will want to be clear on what the
> incentives are.
>>   
>> So perhaps something like
>>   
>> "Work out and implement mechanisms for giving community members
> perks/benefits when they contribute to WPD. Make it clear what those
> benefits are to prospective new members."
>>   
>> ?
>>   
>> Chris Mills
>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical
>> CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
>>   
>> On 8 May 2013, at 00:08, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>   
>> I've taken a stab at setting criteria for declaring "Beta" for Community
> Development [1]. It seems a little weird to use a label like "Beta" for a
> community, but I'm taking it mean that the community is moving from the
> "inception" stage to the "establishment" stage of the community life cycle.
> A big part of that is implementing capture and tracking of metrics so we can
> tell which stage we're in.
>>   
>> If these criteria look good, I'll submit issues in Bug Genie for
>> implementing them. (I'm not even sure that what I want can be done
>> with mailman and MediaWiki; we can discuss that in the BG issues.)
>>   
>> [1]
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Project_Status#Goals_for_Communit
>> y
>>


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Janet Swisher <mailto:jREMOVEswisher@mozilla.com>
Mozilla Developer Network <https://developer.mozilla.org>
Developer Engagement Community Organizer