- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:06:07 -0500
- To: Web API public <public-webapi@w3.org>
Hi, WebAPI fans- The minutes for the 27 Feb 2008 DOM3 Events telcon can be found here: http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html Or as text, below: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Web API WG Teleconference 27 Feb 2008 [2]Agenda [2] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/27_Feb_2008 See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-irc Attendees Present Carmelo, Andrew_Emmons, Doug, Travis Regrets Chair Doug Scribe Carmelo Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]DoubleClick 2. [6]Double Click 3. [7]lets differ wheels to next week 4. [8]dblclick Tests 5. [9]'alt'-key 6. [10]mousewheel overview * [11]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 27 February 2008 <scribe> Scribe: Carmelo <scribe> ScribeNick:Carmelo <TL> Here I am. TL: Changes his name to Travis DS: We decided not to talk about Key events ... We need to decide how to handle keyboards and that sort of things ... Lets start with Double Click DoubleClick Double Click <aemmons> [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.h tml [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0050.html AS: Two issuus Regarding Doubing Click DS: Can u summarize? AS: Should the detail value be for Double Click? ... Consensus is should be teh same as click ... Described and explained teh link above TL: Can an example be provid? R: detail for double click will be the same a the click <aemmons> RESOLUTION: detail for double click will be the same a the click <aemmons> RESOLUTION: We accept the current wording in the spec regarding what the current click count means <shepazu> ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-03-05]. DS: We are finish with double Click lets differ wheels to next week DS: Let's review the DoubleClick Test <shepazu> [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.h tml [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html dblclick Tests <shepazu> test 1: [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.h tml [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0161.html DS; If red shown in the test it means failure DS: Green usually a pass ... Instruction For each test <scribe> ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Provied test template [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05]. DS: Test should work on every Browser ... Test should figure out if person Double Click ... How can we actually check for that? ... We should make a framework for the test <scribe> ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener events. [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Give us a script library that will add listener events. [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05]. <shepazu> ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Created ACTION-249 - Provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05]. DS: We will build a script layer for testing Carmelo: How critical is add eventListener? DS: mmmm not sure? TL: addEventListener is one of the key pieces different from implementations ... Another piece that is different Scope of the event object itself TL; Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on TL: Will be happy to provide a small library to buil on <aemmons> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.h tml [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Feb/0164.html AE: Above link is an SVG version of the NIST test AS: Lets Move on DS: Ok 'alt'-key <shepazu> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122 [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/webapi/issues/122 TL: ALT key events is sometimes loose. ... Explained the issue and the scenarios for "ALT" handling DL: propoesed two options sub/DL/TL/ sub /DL/TL/ DS: Thsi behavious is somehow address in DOM 3 events ... maybe this should be on next week's agenda DS; None of this should be dependent on any OS DS: We cna have a non- normative appendix for somer key sequences TL: That will be a good place for this (some key sequences) ... Was the difference of behaviour in OS's was somewhat expected? <scribe> ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the \"alt\" key). [on Travis Leithead - due 2008-03-05]. Resolution: We will provide a model for event order and provide an informative appendix with major known exceptions to this model. DS: Next week we will talk about key event sequence models ... Please provide things tht we think need to be solved <scribe> ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-251 - Provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05]. mousewheel overview DS: mousewheel event should be derive from mouse event . ... Another issue Some mousewheels let navigate on non-orthogonal directions. ... How to recognize single direction with multiple direction devices. TL: Is it possible to keep a single event aned derive the others? DS: Yes that is basically what omnievent is trying to accomplish. AS: Was happy with Travis single event idea as it simplifies context <shepazu> Resolution: remove multimousewheel, put additional dimensional delta values on mousewheel <Hixie> wow, after the months of telecons we spent on multimousewheel, we're removing it again? <Hixie> i'm sure glad i don't both attending telecons anymore <shepazu> Hixie, we're going to send a proposal to the list, we think we have a better model <Hixie> cool <shepazu> ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07] <trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Send mousewheel proposal to list [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-03-05]. DS: What are useful things to test on double click? ... the only normative thing we can say about click count is that there is a click count ... That can be tested <shepazu> trackbot: adjourn <shepazu> trackbot, adjourn Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: aemmons to add informative examples of different click counts for dblclick [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Doug to provide Andrew with model wording for key evnts sequence [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Doug to provied test template [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Doug to send mousewheel proposal to list [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: TL to give us a script library that will add listener events. [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide a simple test for modifier key combinations (specifically the "alt" key). [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide simple abstraction layer for addEventListener [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html#action04] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [31]scribe.perl version 1.133 ([32]CVS log) $Date: 2008/02/27 21:03:11 $ _________________________________________________________ [31] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [32] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.133 of Date: 2008/01/18 18:48:51 Check for newer version at [33]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002 /scribe/ [33] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Succeeded: s/Anne/Agenda/ Succeeded: s/Click count has to be normative/the only normative thing w e can say about click count is that there is a click count / Found Scribe: Carmelo Inferring ScribeNick: Carmelo Found ScribeNick: Carmelo Default Present: Carmelo, Andrew_Emmons, Doug, Travis Present: Carmelo Andrew_Emmons Doug Travis Agenda: [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/27_Feb_2008 Found Date: 27 Feb 2008 Guessing minutes URL: [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.h tml People with action items: aemmons doug tl travis [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/27_Feb_2008 [35] http://www.w3.org/2008/02/27-webapi-minutes.html WARNING: Input appears to use implicit continuation lines. 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