- From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:29:48 -0600
- To: "martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
- Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
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> > > 2. Strive for a self-contained, frame-based organisation, i.e. reducing > the relevance of the type hierarchy, eventually up to a point where we > (publicly) just have a flat bag of types and associated properties. > Uh, that breaks with the original goals of Schema.org somewhat ??... having a unified, agreed upon, schema (instead of everyone sorta doing their own thing and not having agreed upon types and properties) I wonder what that flat bag of types would look like ? Perhaps your thinking more that flat bag of types should be flipped around to Predicates themselves ? Like something like Freebase's predicates, "abstraction of", "abstraction", "part_of", "parts" ... https://www.googleapis.com/freebase/v1/search?indent=true&help=predicates but you still need basic types to hang a Predicate off of. One of the "nice things to have" is that Schema.org PUBLICLY helps bring agreement on Types themselves. I would not like to throw that out. > That does not mean we abandon the hierarchy internally; it will remain > useful for managing the vocabulary. > Then you'll need to be a little more clear...do we need a looser schema ? or only in some places ? Remember the original goals of Schema.org and what we were trying to solve in the 1st place. (Freebase created higher and higher kinded Types, but eventually you reach a plateau of sorts... I.E. We cannot just have Thing only in that flat bag. :) > Currently, users and people who want to propose extensions must understand > the official and inofficial parts of the meta-model and memorize the type > hierarchy. > > See Figure 4 in this paper: > > Possible Ontologies: How Reality Constrains the Development of > Relevant Ontologies, in: IEEE Internet Computing, Vol. 11, No. 1, pp. > 90-96, January-February 2007 > > A PDF is at > http://www.heppnetz.de/files/IEEE-IC-PossibleOntologies-published.pdf > > Yeah, we know reality, Martin, and you and I agree a lot on that reality in the past :) Hmm, perhaps I am just misinterpreting your global view of things for the future of Schema.org ... can you elaborate more or blog about your flat blag of types idea ?
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