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Re: Multi-typed Entities in schema.org; was: Re: makesOffer should accept Service

From: Jarno van Driel <jarno@quantumspork.nl>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 19:15:05 +0100
Message-ID: <CAFQgrbZmBAsNJvqDCj4yURSLCBtL0QgJLWFqn6Fv5T7LLPPHLg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
Cc: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, Public Vocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Excuse me for being the noob here ;) but how could I literally help out?
I'm willing but unfortunately unfamiliar with what I could on the
webschemas wiki nor how to do it. If somebody could point me the way and
hold my hand a bit so to say, than I'm more than happy to dedicate some of
my time to code a bunch of examples. I just don't know where and how to
start.


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:

> On 8 January 2014 09:48, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
> wrote:
> > On 01/08/2014 08:01 AM, Martin Hepp wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Jarno, Karen, all:
> >>
> >> I think I did not say this explicit: From a conceptual level, I strongly
> >> recommend to use a "multi-type" approach that combines two or more
> >> schema.org types for such cases. Unfortunately, the current support at
> the
> >> search engine level for multi-typed entities is not flawless.
> >>
> >> What this means is that:
> >>
> >> 1. The given examples and direction are generally correct.
> >> 2. They may not work immediately in current client projects.
> >> 3. Google and the other sponsors of schema.org should make fixing
> support
> >> for multi-typed entities in Microdata, RDFa, and JSON-LD a priority,
> both in
> >> validators and operational systems.
> >> 4. We should rather wait for #3 instead of blowing up schema.org with
> >> conceptual elements for a tentative fix. After all, the cost of
> deprecating
> >> or changing elements in schema.org is high in terms of confusion.
> >
> > How can we contribute to #3? Maybe we could collaboratively create a
> page on
> > our wiki listing very particular examples with.
> >
> > * markup in JSON-LD, RDFa and Microdata
> > * comments on our motivation and expectations in using those particular
> > structures
> > * matrix with ranking of current support among tools which try to support
> > schema.org
>
> Yes please! Simple motivating test cases linked from webschemas wiki
> would be useful.
>
> There are two important cases w.r.t. schema.org: (i) multiple
> schema.org types (ii) combination of schema.org and types from
> elsewhere.
>
> There's a related issue around the miniskos discussion, which is how
> to use externally enumerated sets of categories (which might not best
> be modeled using types), e.g. food cuisines. But we can cover that
> separately.
>
> Note also that anything below LocalBusiness already counts as both a
> Place and an Organization.
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
> > Having that could make process of fixing those bugs more straight forward
> > for people developing those tools!
> >
> >
> >
>
Received on Wednesday, 8 January 2014 18:15:35 UTC

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