Re: feedback on some Action subtypes

Thad,

   I share the same feelings towards the vision you just described :) If
you at-reply me in your G+ post I'd be happy to engage.

   Sam


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wanted to also spark some imagination of Action-able subtypes and
> thought that my recent G+ comment to +JarnovanDriel might help others think
> Outside the Inbox...
>
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> It's about .... YOUR USERS ... and giving them relevant answers to their
> questions.  The answers can be front-facing anything...inside, a game, an
> app, a website, a kiosk, etc, and yes... Actions in the Inbox between your
> users and your organization or company.
>
> Think about having a conversation with your users back and forth and
> allowing them to DO STUFF through that conversation.  It is no longer
> needed to be on a phone call and the conversation can be shared optionally
> through different forms of media and devices or notification systems... now
> increasingly mobile or wristwatch or Google Glass).
>
> Just like Google Now and Gmail can surface answers to their users
> questions, so can you provide your users with answers to :
>
> "When is our Online Meeting again ?" ACTION: EventReservation
> "Did I get a response yet to my support question to your company ?  Where
> is it ?" ACTION: TrackAction
> "Did I get my original receipt yet ?  I did !  Now I need to SUBMIT my
> rebate coupon along with it back to your company.  Because I could really
> use that $50 now !"  ACTION: Submit Rebate Coupon  (a Mini Order in
> disguise that has a $ 0.00 price)
> "Did I reach my reward peak yet ?  Or is it soon to expire ?"  ACTION:
> Check My Points (a specific Check Status or EventReservation reminder)
> "What is my highest score so far ? and how do I compare to my friends ?"
> ACTION: Check My Score (a specific Check Status)
> "Did I get approved yet ?" ACTION: Check Approval (a specific Check Status)
> "Did I get accepted yet ?" ACTION: Check Acceptance (a specific Check
> Status)
>
> Think OUTSIDE the Inbox, if need be, for your conversation with your users.
>
> And then the Inbox (or app or game, whatever) will automatically pick up
> and understand the conversation that you have structured, if you follow
> Schema.org Actions schema.
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <
> perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
>
>> Please let me know if i can find better channel then this list to share
>> such feedback!
>>
>> * http://schema.org/JoinAction
>> ** Parent type Action already has property *object* used in JoinAction
>> examples with SportsTeam, MusicGroup and TheatreGroup. I don't understand
>> why we make *Event* a special case and use *event* property instead of
>> generic *object*.
>>
>> * http://schema.org/CheckInAction
>> ** If I check in to a Place or Event they already might have *location*.
>> I would find very useful suggestions, from people who implemented such
>> cases, if they simply copy object.location into location?
>> ** Example "John checked in at Yandex" links to Place using *location*
>> property. I have impression that some implementations might use generic
>> *object* property instead. How about convention: "Use location for actions
>> only if different then object"?
>> ** Example uses not existing object - type *Flight*
>> ** Looking at properties from CommunicateAction I have impression that
>> CheckInAction doesn't fit as its sub type.
>>
>> * http://schema.org/PhotographAction
>> ** Example "John took a photo of Steve." puts ImageObject as *object*
>> property where *result* property seems to fit more to link Image, while
>> Steve would fit as *object*?
>>
>> * http://schema.org/CommentAction
>> ** Example "John commented on a blog post.", object=UserComment &
>> about="ScholarlyArticle". My first thought led in direction
>> object=ScholaryArticle & result="UserComment"... (result explained with:
>> e.g. John wrote *a book*.) I don't argue that we should model it the second
>> way, but maybe provide links to strong reasoning why preference of one way
>> over another! (similar to previous example of PhotographAction)
>>
>> * http://schema.org/SubscribeAction
>> ** missing UnSubscribeAction ? (eg. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/
>> Public/public-vocabs/2013Nov/0176.html)
>>
>> * http://schema.org/FollowAction
>> ** missing UnFollowAction ? (i do it very often during online activities!
>> twitter etc.)
>>
>> * http://schema.org/BefriendAction
>> ** missing UnFriendAction ? (sad but happens ;)
>>
>> * http://schema.org/MarryAction
>> ** missing DivorceAction ? :D
>>
>> I plan to look on other actions in near future. Once again, if you can
>> think of better way for me to provide feedback, please let me know!
>>
>>
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