- From: Laura Dawson <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:07:08 +0000
- To: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
- CC: "public-vocabs@w3.org TF" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, "lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk" <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>
Martin, thank you so much! I will pass this along to our developers. On 11/20/13, 5:04 PM, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote: >Laura: > >Also, it would make a lot of sense to add a definition of the >individual's entry as schema.org markup in Microdata or RDFa to the HTML >template you use for > >>>>>> http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Because then, people who want to name the artist in a page (e.g. on an >Amazon page) could directly use your URI in combination with the >human-readable name via the link element: > ><div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Movie"> ><h1 itemprop="name">Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides >(2011)</h1> ><span itemprop="description">Jack Sparrow and Barbossa embark on a >....</span> >Director: > <link itemprop="director" >href="http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" />Rob Marshall ></div> ></div> > >instead of locally defining the person Rob Marshall and then linking it >to the ISNI entity via sameAs. > >By adding ten lines of schema.org markup to your template for individual >artists, you would make meta-data for > 6 million of them accessible for >all kinds of Web applications. > > >Martin > > >On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Paul Watson wrote: > >> +1 that we should highlight ISNI/ORCID in the Schema documentation. >> >> Perhaps the Description of the sameAs property could be edited to read: >> >> "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's >>identity. E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, >>ISNI/ORCID URI, or official website." >> >> (Disclaimer for transparency: I work for an academic publishing company >>that is one of the Sponsors of ORCID) >> >> >> On 20/11/13 21:53, Laura Dawson wrote: >>> We¡¯re pretty happy, yes. :) >>> >>> Yes, if we could include it as an example in the documentation, that >>>would >>> be really helpful in encouraging further use. You¡¯re right about the >>> difference with ISBNs - unfortunately they are associated with a >>> particular vendor or platform. >>> >>> On 11/20/13, 4:49 PM, "Martin Hepp" >>> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> In any case, it would of course make sense to encourage the use of >>>>ISNI >>>> identifiers in markup by means of a respective example in the >>>>schema.org >>>> spec. >>>> >>>> More than 6 million unique identifiers for contributors to creative >>>>works >>>> is an impressive achievement! >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Laura, >>>>> if there is (or will shortly) be a canonical way of expressing an >>>>>ISNI >>>>> identifier as a URI, then I think Paul's proposal is best. >>>>> The difference to ISBN is that for ISBN codes, there is no canonical >>>>> URI schema defined (at least to my knowledge). >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Laura Dawson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> You¡¯re absolutely right about expressing ISNI in the form of a >>>>>> persistent >>>>>> URI. (Currently you can do so using the URL >>>>>> >>>>>> http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> , but we are moving that >>>>>> functionality to >>>>>> http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> ). However, I >>>>>> was looking at ISNI use in the same way that ISBN is used in ¡°Book¡±. >>>>>> That >>>>>> potential exists as well, so that data sets can communicate with one >>>>>> another. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/20/13, 4:36 PM, "Paul Watson" >>>>>> <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Laura, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We currently have the "sameAs" property in "Person" (and in >>>>>>> "Organization") >>>>>>> which is defined as: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the >>>>>>>item's >>>>>>> identity. >>>>>>> E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, or >>>>>>>official >>>>>>> website." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had a quick look at the ISNI website and it looks like ISNI >>>>>>> identifiers >>>>>>> are in the form of a persistent URI, and I believe ORCID is the >>>>>>>same, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> perhaps the existing "sameAs" property can immediately be used for >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> ISNI/ORCID URI? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/11/13 21:17, Laura Dawson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, all - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I©öm writing to propose including ISNI as a property for Person, >>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> Organization. ISNI is an ISO standard that is nearly 2 years old, >>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>> we©öre starting to see uptake in VIAF, Wikipedia, Digital Science, >>>>>>>> ORCID >>>>>>>> (they use it to identify organization names), Musicbrainz, and >>>>>>>>other >>>>>>>> data >>>>>>>> sets. Currently, there are 6.8 million ISNIs assigned to names >>>>>>>>(6.4 >>>>>>>> million people, 400K organizations), but these numbers are growing >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> new data sets. I think with these sorts of numbers, it©ös a >>>>>>>>valuable >>>>>>>> disambiguation/collocation tool for public identities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We may want to also include other identifiers like ORCID, which is >>>>>>>> heavily >>>>>>>> used in the scholarly/research community, particularly STEM. ORCID >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> subset of ISNI, with different assignment criteria. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More information is here: >>>>>>>> http://www.isni.org >>>>>>>> . I©öm happy to send >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>> documentation, slide decks, or answer any questions as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laura Dawson >>>>>>>> Product Manager, Identifier Services >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.isni.org >>>>>>>> http://www.selfpublishedauthor.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ISNI 0000 0004 1029 5439 >>>>>>>> Bowker | 630 Central Avenue | New Providence, NJ 07974 USA | >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ProQuest... 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The Lazarus Corporation: www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk >> ? The Lazarus Corporation Facebook Page: >>www.facebook.com/lazaruscorporation >> ? Twitter: twitter.com/lazcorp > >-------------------------------------------------------- >martin hepp >e-business & web science research group >universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > >e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org >phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 >fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 >www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) >skype: mfhepp >twitter: mfhepp > >Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! >================================================================= >* Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > > >
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