Re: Proposal to include ISNI

Martin, thank you so much! I will pass this along to our developers.

On 11/20/13, 5:04 PM, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
wrote:

>Laura:
>
>Also, it would make a lot of sense to add a definition of the
>individual's entry as schema.org markup in Microdata or RDFa to the HTML
>template you use for
>
>>>>>> http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>
>Because then, people who want to name the artist in a page (e.g. on an
>Amazon page) could directly use your URI in combination with the
>human-readable name via the link element:
>
><div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Movie">
><h1 itemprop="name">Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides
>(2011)</h1>
><span itemprop="description">Jack Sparrow and Barbossa embark on a
>....</span>
>Director:
> <link itemprop="director"
>href="http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" />Rob Marshall
></div>
></div>
>
>instead of locally defining the person Rob Marshall and then linking it
>to the ISNI entity via sameAs.
>
>By adding ten lines of schema.org markup to your template for individual
>artists, you would make meta-data for > 6 million of them accessible for
>all kinds of Web applications.
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Paul Watson wrote:
>
>> +1 that we should highlight ISNI/ORCID in the Schema documentation.
>> 
>> Perhaps the Description of the sameAs property could be edited to read:
>> 
>> "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's
>>identity. E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page,
>>ISNI/ORCID URI, or official website."
>> 
>> (Disclaimer for transparency: I work for an academic publishing company
>>that is one of the Sponsors of ORCID)
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/11/13 21:53, Laura Dawson wrote:
>>> We¡¯re pretty happy, yes. :)
>>> 
>>> Yes, if we could include it as an example in the documentation, that
>>>would
>>> be really helpful in encouraging further use. You¡¯re right about the
>>> difference with ISBNs - unfortunately they are associated with a
>>> particular vendor or platform.
>>> 
>>> On 11/20/13, 4:49 PM, "Martin Hepp"
>>> <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> In any case, it would of course make sense to encourage the use of
>>>>ISNI
>>>> identifiers in markup by means of a respective example in the
>>>>schema.org
>>>> spec.
>>>> 
>>>> More than 6 million unique identifiers for contributors to creative
>>>>works
>>>> is an impressive achievement!
>>>> 
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>>> if there is (or will shortly) be a canonical way of expressing an
>>>>>ISNI
>>>>> identifier as a URI, then I think Paul's proposal is best.
>>>>> The difference to ISBN is that for ISBN codes, there is no canonical
>>>>> URI schema defined (at least to my knowledge).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Laura Dawson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You¡¯re absolutely right about expressing ISNI in the form of a
>>>>>> persistent
>>>>>> URI. (Currently you can do so using the URL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>>>>> , but we are moving that
>>>>>> functionality to
>>>>>> http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>>>>> ). However, I
>>>>>> was looking at ISNI use in the same way that ISBN is used in ¡°Book¡±.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> potential exists as well, so that data sets can communicate with one
>>>>>> another.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/20/13, 4:36 PM, "Paul Watson"
>>>>>> <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We currently have the "sameAs" property in "Person" (and in
>>>>>>> "Organization")
>>>>>>> which is defined as:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the
>>>>>>>item's
>>>>>>> identity.
>>>>>>> E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, or
>>>>>>>official
>>>>>>> website."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've had a quick look at the ISNI website and it looks like ISNI
>>>>>>> identifiers
>>>>>>> are in the form of a persistent URI, and I believe ORCID is the
>>>>>>>same,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> perhaps the existing "sameAs" property can immediately be used for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>> ISNI/ORCID URI?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 20/11/13 21:17, Laura Dawson wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi, all -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I©öm writing to propose including ISNI as a property for Person,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Organization. ISNI is an ISO standard that is nearly 2 years old,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>> we©öre starting to see uptake in VIAF, Wikipedia, Digital Science,
>>>>>>>> ORCID
>>>>>>>> (they use it to identify organization names), Musicbrainz, and
>>>>>>>>other
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> sets. Currently, there are 6.8 million ISNIs assigned to names
>>>>>>>>(6.4
>>>>>>>> million people, 400K organizations), but these numbers are growing
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> new data sets. I think with these sorts of numbers, it©ös a
>>>>>>>>valuable
>>>>>>>> disambiguation/collocation tool for public identities.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We may want to also include other identifiers like ORCID, which is
>>>>>>>> heavily
>>>>>>>> used in the scholarly/research community, particularly STEM. ORCID
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> subset of ISNI, with different assignment criteria.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> More information is here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.isni.org

>>>>>>>> . I©öm happy to send
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> documentation, slide decks, or answer any questions as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Laura Dawson
>>>>>>>> Product Manager, Identifier Services
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.isni.org

>>>>>>>> http://www.selfpublishedauthor.com

>>>>>>>> 
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>e-business & web science research group
>universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
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