Re: Proposal to include ISNI

+1 that we should highlight ISNI/ORCID in the Schema documentation.

Perhaps the Description of the sameAs property could be edited to read:

"URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's
identity. E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page,
ISNI/ORCID URI, or official website."

(Disclaimer for transparency: I work for an academic publishing company
that is one of the Sponsors of ORCID)


On 20/11/13 21:53, Laura Dawson wrote:
> We’re pretty happy, yes. :)
>
> Yes, if we could include it as an example in the documentation, that would
> be really helpful in encouraging further use. You’re right about the
> difference with ISBNs - unfortunately they are associated with a
> particular vendor or platform.
>
> On 11/20/13, 4:49 PM, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
> wrote:
>
>> In any case, it would of course make sense to encourage the use of ISNI
>> identifiers in markup by means of a respective example in the schema.org
>> spec.
>>
>> More than 6 million unique identifiers for contributors to creative works
>> is an impressive achievement!
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> if there is (or will shortly) be a canonical way of expressing an ISNI
>>> identifier as a URI, then I think Paul's proposal is best.
>>> The difference to ISBN is that for ISBN codes, there is no canonical
>>> URI schema defined (at least to my knowledge).
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Laura Dawson wrote:
>>>
>>>> You’re absolutely right about expressing ISNI in the form of a
>>>> persistent
>>>> URI. (Currently you can do so using the URL
>>>> http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but we are moving that
>>>> functionality to http://www.isni.org/isni/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). However, I
>>>> was looking at ISNI use in the same way that ISBN is used in “Book”.
>>>> That
>>>> potential exists as well, so that data sets can communicate with one
>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/13, 4:36 PM, "Paul Watson" <lazarus@lazaruscorporation.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>>>
>>>>> We currently have the "sameAs" property in "Person" (and in
>>>>> "Organization")
>>>>> which is defined as:
>>>>>
>>>>> "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's
>>>>> identity.
>>>>> E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Freebase page, or official
>>>>> website."
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a quick look at the ISNI website and it looks like ISNI
>>>>> identifiers
>>>>> are in the form of a persistent URI, and I believe ORCID is the same,
>>>>> so
>>>>> perhaps the existing "sameAs" property can immediately be used for the
>>>>> ISNI/ORCID URI?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please correct me if I've misunderstood anything!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/11/13 21:17, Laura Dawson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I¹m writing to propose including ISNI as a property for Person, and
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Organization. ISNI is an ISO standard that is nearly 2 years old, and
>>>>>> we¹re starting to see uptake in VIAF, Wikipedia, Digital Science,
>>>>>> ORCID
>>>>>> (they use it to identify organization names), Musicbrainz, and other
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> sets. Currently, there are 6.8 million ISNIs assigned to names (6.4
>>>>>> million people, 400K organizations), but these numbers are growing
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> new data sets. I think with these sorts of numbers, it¹s a valuable
>>>>>> disambiguation/collocation tool for public identities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We may want to also include other identifiers like ORCID, which is
>>>>>> heavily
>>>>>> used in the scholarly/research community, particularly STEM. ORCID
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> subset of ISNI, with different assignment criteria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More information is here: http://www.isni.org. I¹m happy to send
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> documentation, slide decks, or answer any questions as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laura Dawson
>>>>>> Product Manager, Identifier Services
>>>>>> http://www.isni.org
>>>>>> http://www.selfpublishedauthor.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Bowker, a ProQuest affiliate
>>>>>
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>> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
>>
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