- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:56:51 -0500
- To: Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-vision-newstd@w3.org
On 22 Jun 2010, at 3:34 PM, Arnaud Le Hors wrote: > Hi Ian, > Does Rubberstamp/FastTrack encompass submissions by non members or > is that a different use case? I'm adding that question to the wiki. For some time we have identified process inputs and outputs as follows: Inputs: * Member Submissions * Incubator Group Reports (since 2005 about 50% have moved to the Rec track) * Workshops (often suggestions for new charters) * Team Submissions (infrequent these days) Outputs are typically Recs, Notes, and things in-between. In fact, a few weeks ago I created a diagram with some of these on it: http://www.w3.org/2010/05/incubation.png I am beginning to think about document paths (e.g., "to Recommendation" is one path) and that some paths may not involve a Working Group. It looks like several use cases may be candidates for "no Working Group" (e.g., revise an existing standard, take a de facto spec to standard, etc.). One way to address these "no WG" cases would be to "create" a new track with some sort of review process. I am looking at IETF processes since they have an "experimental" path: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.2.1 And the publications process for those: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.2.3 > I'm not sure but it might be worth listing it separately and > recognize that these use cases aren't mutually exclusive but can in > fact be combined. There's a meta note at the top of the page that mentions combining; hope that suffices. _ Ian > -- > Arnaud Le Hors - Program Director, Global Open Standards, IBM Open > Source & Standards Policy > > > > > From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> > To: Michael Champion <Michael.Champion@microsoft.com> > Cc: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>, "public-vision- > newstd@w3.org" <public-vision-newstd@w3.org> > Date: 06/21/2010 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: First pass at use cases for "new standards" task > force > Sent by: public-vision-newstd-request@w3.org > > > > > On 21 Jun 2010, at 1:59 PM, Michael Champion wrote: > > > +1 to [FastTrack] ... > > I have merged FastTrack and Rubberstamp. I like FastTrack as a title > better. The difference seemed mostly to be "was at one time in W3C" > > > > > I'm not sure if [Competition] is a use case or just a possible > > attribute of any of the use cases. > > > > Likewise, isn't [Ontology] just one of the types of outputs that > > could come out of any of the use cases? People might want to > > develop a web standard ontology, develop one that competes with a > > W3C standard, brainstorm about a possible new ontology, create a > > profile of an existing ontology, rubberstamp or fast track a de > > facto standard one ... > > The key to this use case is that the ontology is vertical; I've added > "vertical" to the wiki. In that sense, it's closest to Profile. > > To your point, though: This is an attempt to write down things we've > heard. If it's possible to boil the list down to 3 (with some being > variants, etc.) then they may tell us directly which three processes > we need. > > - Ian > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: public-vision-newstd-request@w3.org [mailto:public-vision-newstd-request@w3.org > > ] On Behalf Of Harry Halpin > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:49 AM > > To: public-vision-newstd@w3.org > > Subject: Re: First pass at use cases for "new standards" task force > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I've written down seven use cases [1]: > >> > >> * [Core] Develop a new Web standard > >> * [Ontology] Develop an industry-specific ontology > >> * [Competition] Develop a competing specification > >> * [Brainstorm] Experiment (new format or > extension) > >> * [Profile] Create a profile of one or more > specifications > >> * [Sunset] Revise a W3C Recommendation without a > Working Group > >> * [Rubberstamp] Reset expectations between W3C > Recommendation and de > >> facto standard > >> > >> I welcome your comments on the list. What's missing? Are there any > >> you > >> think should be "out of scope" for this task force? > > > > Overall, great starting work Ian! > > > > I think one of the one's that we need to add is: > > > > [FastTrack] Fast-track an already existing de-facto standard to > > being a W3C Recommendation > > > > Some group of people or organization have produced a specification > > (possibly with or without a degree of legal protection) that has > > become widely deployed within the industry. However, they would like > > their standard to become a W3C Recommendation, possibly because but > > not necessarily because they would like to be even more well-known > > and have stronger IPR, would like to see integration with other > > communities and standards. They strongly feel they do not want to > > start with scratch. One requirement may be working with a large > > group of people not normally affiliated with the W3C or familiar > > with W3C Process, and having more than one organization managing the > > standards. > > > > Example: Some of the work in the Social Web space could follow this > > trajectory, as does HTML5. > > > > > > > >> > >> Feel free to go in and edit the wiki (and if you can't get write > >> access, please let me know). > >> > >> _ Ian > >> > >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/04/w3c-vision-public/wiki/Use_Cases > >> -- > >> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ > >> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ > Tel: +1 718 260 9447 > > > -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: +1 718 260 9447
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