- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:25:35 +0100
- To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
No, it was more of an informal discussion.
I can join now if needed.
thierry
Le 19/01/2017 à 17:21, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
> Ah, sorry about that. Are there notes?
>
> Nigel
>
> On 19/01/2017, 16:19, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Nigel,
>> I wasn't aware of it. But it does say in your agenda ;-)
>>
>> Andreas, Pierre and Pierre joined at regular schedule.
>>
>> We have discussed the IMSC1 new publication.
>> Thierry.
>>
>> Le 19/01/2017 à 17:10, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>>> It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the discussion
>>> we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour I
>>> have just begun the meetingŠ and just two of us are on it right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk
>>> <mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>> To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org
>>> <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>>> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19
>>> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>>
>>> *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a
>>> prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>>>
>>> *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour
>>> later_*
>>>
>>> Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>>> correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>>
>>> Check
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=
>>> 43
>>>
>>> Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings)
>>> Boston local
>>>
>>> *Joining details: *
>>>
>>> see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>>> (members-only link if you can't see this and wish to join please
>>> contact me)
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>>>
>>> *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>>>
>>> *Scribe:* usually Nigel open to offers!
>>>
>>> *Regrets: *Thierry
>>>
>>> *Activity since last meeting:** *
>>> See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>>>
>>>
>>> Cross-product TTWG board:
>>> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>>
>>> *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to issues.*
>>> *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>>>
>>>
>>> IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>>> TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>>> TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>>> TTML Profile
>>> Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>>> TTML-WebVTT
>>> mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>>
>>> WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Check-point for order of topics I'd suggest, subject to
>>> reordering:
>>> 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>>> 2. Profiles registry
>>> 3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>>> 4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>>> 5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>>> 6. WebVTT comments
>>> 7. AOB please notify of any other AOB now!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>>
>>> _January Meetings:_
>>>
>>> Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>> Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>
>>> Further ahead:
>>>
>>> Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>> Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>> Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>> Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>
>>> _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of upcoming
>>> work
>>> at
>>> _https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMS
>>> C2_work _
>>>
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>>>
>>> *IMSC 1.1 update*
>>>
>>> *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>>> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>>> Pierre's response to the recent update is
>>> at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>>> Email response from Shervin at
>>> Unicode
>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>>
>>> Merged pull requests:
>>>
>>> Prepare specification for 2ED
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>>> Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>>> Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>>> Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>>> Add support for editorial area
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>>>
>>> Open pull requests:
>>>
>>> Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>>>
>>> New or discussed issues:
>>>
>>> Control background between adjacent lines
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>>
>>> Editor's draft is directly viewable
>>> at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>>> IMSC Implementation
>>> Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>>
>>> *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>>> * *
>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>> ACTION-492
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit> pending
>>> review Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>>> https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> Thierry
>>> Michel 2017-01-19 TTML versions and profiles note
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Merged pull request:
>>>
>>> Update index.html
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>>> Update index.html
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there
>>> are two with the same name)
>>>
>>> Open pull requests: none
>>> Closed issues: none
>>> New issue: broken link to fix
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>>> http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc*
>>>
>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>> ACTION-494
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit> pending
>>> review Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>>> discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> Nigel
>>> Megitt 2017-01-20 TTML2
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html>
>>> and Fwd:
>>> Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>>>
>>> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR
>>> for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html>
>>> When
>>> can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>>>
>>>
>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>> ACTION-443
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open
>>> Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to
>>> ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn
>>> Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>> ACTION-462
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open
>>> Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and
>>> profiles of ttml"
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn
>>> Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most recent WD published
>>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>>
>>> Merged Pull Requests: None
>>> Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>>> New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr'
>>> and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>>> New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto
>>> HDR video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>>> Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is
>>> incorrect. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should
>>> tts:direction apply only to <span>?
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>>> Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>>> Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>>> Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Focus topic for this week*
>>> Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>>> background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2,
>>> covering at least the issues:
>>>
>>> Should background of a span be height of text in line or
>>> computed lineHeight? #101
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>>> Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>>> Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>>> Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>>>
>>> This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed
>>> IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>>
>>>
>>> Current open
>>> issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and
>>> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>>>
>>> See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>>>
>>> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>>
>>> More volunteers welcomed!
>>>
>>> _TTML Change Proposals progress and review_
>>>
>>> Change Proposal Index is
>>> at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>>>
>>> The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide
>>> Review) are:
>>>
>>> 5 OPEN 2 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>>> 7 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 3D extensions
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>>> 9 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux IMSC2 Complexity model
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>>> 11 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Metadata vocab
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>>> 15 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>>> 17 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>>> 19 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>>> 21 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Typography.I18n
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>>> 25 OPEN 2 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>>>
>>> Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>>>
>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>> ACTION-441
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open
>>> Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas
>>> Tai 2015-11-05
>>>
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>>> further information on this, this week.
>>>
>>> Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html>
>>> email
>>> from 2016-09-06.
>>>
>>> [placeholder agenda item]
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>>>
>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>> ACTION-396
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open
>>> Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the
>>> archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>
>>> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>> ACTION-473
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> open
>>> Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on
>>> vtt; need an action plan
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> Thierry
>>> Michel 2016-06-30 WebVTT 1.0
>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>>
>>>
>>> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>>
>>> WebVTT Wide review wiki page:
>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>
>>> Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions
>>> to authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270: Add
>>> classes to specify text colour
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for
>>> region identifier to exist.
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>>> New issues: None
>>> Closed issues: None
>>> Recently discussed issues: n
>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>>>
>>> *Agenda+ AOB*
>>>
>>> *References*
>>>
>>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>>
>>>
>
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