- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:31:26 +0000
- To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
That could be helpful, if you have time.
Nigel
On 19/01/2017, 16:25, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>No, it was more of an informal discussion.
>I can join now if needed.
>
>thierry
>
>Le 19/01/2017 à 17:21, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>> Ah, sorry about that. Are there notes?
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> On 19/01/2017, 16:19, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Nigel,
>>> I wasn't aware of it. But it does say in your agenda ;-)
>>>
>>> Andreas, Pierre and Pierre joined at regular schedule.
>>>
>>> We have discussed the IMSC1 new publication.
>>> Thierry.
>>>
>>> Le 19/01/2017 à 17:10, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>>>> It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the
>>>>discussion
>>>> we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour I
>>>> have just begun the meetingŠ and just two of us are on it right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk
>>>> <mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>>> To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org
>>>> <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>>>> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19
>>>> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>>>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>>>
>>>> *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a
>>>> prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>>>>
>>>> *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour
>>>> later_*
>>>>
>>>> Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>>>> correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>>>
>>>> Check
>>>>
>>>>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p
>>>>1=
>>>> 43
>>>>
>>>> Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings)
>>>> Boston local
>>>>
>>>> *Joining details: *
>>>>
>>>> see
>>>>https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>>>> (members-only link if you can't see this and wish to join please
>>>> contact me)
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>>>>
>>>> *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>>>>
>>>> *Scribe:* usually Nigel open to offers!
>>>>
>>>> *Regrets: *Thierry
>>>>
>>>> *Activity since last meeting:** *
>>>> See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific
>>>>products
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cross-product TTWG board:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>>>
>>>> *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to
>>>>issues.*
>>>> *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>>>> TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>>>> TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>>>> TTML Profile
>>>> Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>>>> TTML-WebVTT
>>>> mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>>>
>>>> WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Check-point for order of topics I'd suggest, subject to
>>>> reordering:
>>>> 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>>>> 2. Profiles registry
>>>> 3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>>>> 4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>>>> 5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>>>> 6. WebVTT comments
>>>> 7. AOB please notify of any other AOB now!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>>>
>>>> _January Meetings:_
>>>>
>>>> Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>> Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>>
>>>> Further ahead:
>>>>
>>>> Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>> Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>> Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>> Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>>>
>>>> _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of
>>>>upcoming
>>>> work
>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>_https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_I
>>>>MS
>>>> C2_work _
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>>>>
>>>> *IMSC 1.1 update*
>>>>
>>>> *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>>>> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>>>> Pierre's response to the recent update is
>>>> at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>>>> Email response from Shervin at
>>>> Unicode
>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>>>
>>>> Merged pull requests:
>>>>
>>>> Prepare specification for 2ED
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>>>> Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>>>> Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>>>> Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>>>> Add support for editorial area
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>>>>
>>>> Open pull requests:
>>>>
>>>> Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>>>>
>>>> New or discussed issues:
>>>>
>>>> Control background between adjacent lines
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>>>
>>>> Editor's draft is directly viewable
>>>> at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>>>> IMSC Implementation
>>>> Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>>>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>>>> * *
>>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>>> ACTION-492
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit>
>>>> pending
>>>> review Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>>>> https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> Thierry
>>>> Michel 2017-01-19 TTML versions and profiles note
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Merged pull request:
>>>>
>>>> Update index.html
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>>>> Update index.html
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes
>>>>there
>>>> are two with the same name)
>>>>
>>>> Open pull requests: none
>>>> Closed issues: none
>>>> New issue: broken link to fix
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>>>> http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions
>>>>etc*
>>>>
>>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>>> ACTION-494
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit>
>>>> pending
>>>> review Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>>>> discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> Nigel
>>>> Megitt 2017-01-20 TTML2
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html>
>>>> and Fwd:
>>>> Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>>>>
>>>> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of
>>>>CR
>>>> for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html>
>>>> When
>>>> can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>>> ACTION-443
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open
>>>> Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to
>>>> ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn
>>>> Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>>> ACTION-462
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open
>>>> Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and
>>>> profiles of ttml"
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn
>>>> Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most recent WD published
>>>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>>>
>>>> Merged Pull Requests: None
>>>> Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify
>>>>semantics
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>>>> New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction
>>>>'ltr'
>>>> and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>>>> New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document
>>>>onto
>>>> HDR video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>>>> Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is
>>>> incorrect. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should
>>>> tts:direction apply only to <span>?
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>>>> Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>>>> Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>>>> Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Focus topic for this week*
>>>> Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>>>> background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in
>>>>TTML2,
>>>> covering at least the issues:
>>>>
>>>> Should background of a span be height of text in line or
>>>> computed lineHeight? #101
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>>>> Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>>>> Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas
>>>>#163
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>>>> Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>>>>
>>>> This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently
>>>>discussed
>>>> IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Current open
>>>> issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>>>>
>>>> See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>>>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>>>>
>>>> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>>>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>>>
>>>> More volunteers welcomed!
>>>>
>>>> _TTML Change Proposals progress and review_
>>>>
>>>> Change Proposal Index is
>>>> at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>>>>
>>>> The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for
>>>>Wide
>>>> Review) are:
>>>>
>>>> 5 OPEN 2 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>>>> 7 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 3D extensions
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>>>> 9 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux IMSC2 Complexity model
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>>>> 11 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Metadata vocab
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>>>> 15 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>>>> 17 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>>>> 19 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>>>> 21 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Typography.I18n
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>>>> 25 OPEN 2 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>>>>
>>>> Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>>>>
>>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>>> ACTION-441
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open
>>>> Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas
>>>> Tai 2015-11-05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>>>> further information on this, this week.
>>>>
>>>> Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html>
>>>> email
>>>> from 2016-09-06.
>>>>
>>>> [placeholder agenda item]
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>>>>
>>>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>>>> ACTION-396
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open
>>>> Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the
>>>> archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>
>>>> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>>> ACTION-473
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> open
>>>> Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on
>>>> vtt; need an action plan
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> Thierry
>>>> Michel 2016-06-30 WebVTT 1.0
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>>>
>>>> WebVTT Wide review wiki page:
>>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>>
>>>> Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions
>>>> to authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270:
>>>>Add
>>>> classes to specify text colour
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for
>>>> region identifier to exist.
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>>>> New issues: None
>>>> Closed issues: None
>>>> Recently discussed issues: n
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda+ AOB*
>>>>
>>>> *References*
>>>>
>>>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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