- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:21:26 +0000
- To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Ah, sorry about that. Are there notes?
Nigel
On 19/01/2017, 16:19, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>Nigel,
>I wasn't aware of it. But it does say in your agenda ;-)
>
>Andreas, Pierre and Pierre joined at regular schedule.
>
>We have discussed the IMSC1 new publication.
>Thierry.
>
>Le 19/01/2017 à 17:10, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>> It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the discussion
>> we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour I
>> have just begun the meetingŠ and just two of us are on it right now.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk
>><mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>> To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org
>><mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19
>> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>
>> *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a
>> prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>>
>> *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour
>> later_*
>>
>> Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>> correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>
>> Check
>>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=
>>43
>>
>> Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings)
>> Boston local
>>
>> *Joining details: *
>>
>> see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>> (members-only link if you can't see this and wish to join please
>> contact me)
>>
>> *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>>
>> *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>>
>> *Scribe:* usually Nigel open to offers!
>>
>> *Regrets: *Thierry
>>
>> *Activity since last meeting:** *
>> See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>>
>>
>> Cross-product TTWG board:
>>http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>
>> *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to issues.*
>> *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>>
>>
>> IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>> TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>> TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>> TTML Profile
>> Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>> TTML-WebVTT
>> mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>
>> WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>
>> *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>> *
>> *
>> Check-point for order of topics I'd suggest, subject to
>>reordering:
>> 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>> 2. Profiles registry
>> 3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>> 4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>> 5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>> 6. WebVTT comments
>> 7. AOB please notify of any other AOB now!
>>
>>
>>
>> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>
>> _January Meetings:_
>>
>> Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>> Further ahead:
>>
>> Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>> _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of upcoming
>> work
>> at
>>_https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMS
>>C2_work _
>>
>>
>> *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>>
>> *IMSC 1.1 update*
>>
>> *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>> Pierre's response to the recent update is
>> at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>> Email response from Shervin at
>> Unicode
>>https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>
>> Merged pull requests:
>>
>> Prepare specification for 2ED
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>> Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>> Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>> Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>> Add support for editorial area
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>>
>> Open pull requests:
>>
>> Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>>
>> New or discussed issues:
>>
>> Control background between adjacent lines
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>> Editor's draft is directly viewable
>> at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>> IMSC Implementation
>> Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>
>> *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>> *
>> *
>> Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>> * *
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-492
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit> pending
>> review Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>> https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> Thierry
>> Michel 2017-01-19 TTML versions and profiles note
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> Merged pull request:
>>
>> Update index.html
>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>> Update index.html
>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there
>> are two with the same name)
>>
>> Open pull requests: none
>> Closed issues: none
>> New issue: broken link to fix
>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>>
>> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>> http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>>
>> *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc*
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-494
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit> pending
>> review Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>> discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> Nigel
>> Megitt 2017-01-20 TTML2
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>>
>> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html>
>>and Fwd:
>> Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>>
>> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR
>> for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html>
>>When
>> can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>>
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-443
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open
>> Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to
>> ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn
>> Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>> ACTION-462
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open
>> Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and
>> profiles of ttml"
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn
>> Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>> Most recent WD published
>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>
>> Merged Pull Requests: None
>> Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>> New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr'
>> and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>> New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto
>> HDR video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>> Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is
>> incorrect. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should
>> tts:direction apply only to <span>?
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>> Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>> Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>> Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>>
>>
>> *Focus topic for this week*
>> Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>> background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2,
>> covering at least the issues:
>>
>> Should background of a span be height of text in line or
>> computed lineHeight? #101
>><https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>> Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>> Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>> Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>>
>> This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed
>> IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>>
>> Current open
>> issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and
>>https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>>
>> See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>>
>> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>
>> More volunteers welcomed!
>>
>> _TTML Change Proposals progress and review_
>>
>> Change Proposal Index is
>> at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>>
>> The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide
>> Review) are:
>>
>> 5 OPEN 2 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>> 7 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 3D extensions
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>> 9 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux IMSC2 Complexity model
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>> 11 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Metadata vocab
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>> 15 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>> 17 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>> 19 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>> 21 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Typography.I18n
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>> 25 OPEN 2 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>>
>> *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>>
>> Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>>
>> *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-441
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open
>> Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas
>> Tai 2015-11-05
>>
>>
>> See
>>https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>> further information on this, this week.
>>
>> Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html>
>>email
>> from 2016-09-06.
>>
>> [placeholder agenda item]
>>
>> *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-396
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open
>> Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the
>> archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>
>> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>> ACTION-473
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> open
>> Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on
>> vtt; need an action plan
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> Thierry
>> Michel 2016-06-30 WebVTT 1.0
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>
>>
>> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>
>> WebVTT Wide review wiki page:
>>https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>
>> Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions
>> to authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270: Add
>> classes to specify text colour
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for
>> region identifier to exist.
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>> New issues: None
>> Closed issues: None
>> Recently discussed issues: n
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>>
>> *Agenda+ AOB*
>>
>> *References*
>>
>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
>>
Received on Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:21:56 UTC