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Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:21:26 +0000
To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D4A697F6.35024%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Ah, sorry about that. Are there notes?

Nigel

On 19/01/2017, 16:19, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:

>Nigel,
>I wasn't aware of it. But it does say in your agenda ;-)
>
>Andreas, Pierre and Pierre joined at regular schedule.
>
>We have discussed the IMSC1 new publication.
>Thierry.
>
>Le 19/01/2017 à 17:10, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>> It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the discussion
>> we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour ­ I
>> have just begun the meetingŠ and just two of us are on it right now.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk
>><mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>> To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org
>><mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19
>> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>>
>>     *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a
>>     prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>>
>>     *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour
>>     later_*
>>
>>     Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>>     correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>
>>     Check 
>>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=
>>43
>>
>>     Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings)
>>     Boston local
>>
>>     *Joining details: *
>>
>>     see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>>     (members-only link ­ if you can't see this and wish to join please
>>     contact me)
>>
>>     *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>>
>>     *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>>
>>     *Scribe:* usually Nigel ­ open to offers!
>>
>>     *Regrets: *Thierry
>>
>>     *Activity since last meeting:** *
>>     See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>>
>>
>>             Cross-product TTWG board:
>>http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>
>>         *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to issues.*
>>         *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>>
>>
>>         IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>>         TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>>         TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>>         TTML Profile
>>         Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>>         TTML-WebVTT
>>         mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>
>>         WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>
>>     *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>>     *
>>     *
>>     Check-point for order of topics ­ I'd suggest, subject to
>>reordering:
>>     1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>>     2. Profiles registry
>>     3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>>     4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>>     5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>>     6. WebVTT comments
>>     7. AOB ­ please notify of any other AOB now!
>>
>>
>>
>>     Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>
>>     _January Meetings:_
>>
>>     Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>     Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>>     Further ahead:
>>
>>     Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>     Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>     Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>     Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>>     _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of upcoming
>>     work
>>     at 
>>_https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMS
>>C2_work _
>>
>>
>>     *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>>
>>     *IMSC 1.1 update*
>>
>>     *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>>     Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>>     Pierre's response to the recent update is
>>     at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>>     Email response from Shervin at
>>     Unicode 
>>https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>
>>     Merged pull requests:
>>
>>         Prepare specification for 2ED
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>>         Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>>         Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>>         Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>>         Add support for editorial area
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>>
>>     Open pull requests:
>>
>>         Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>>
>>     New or discussed issues:
>>
>>         Control background between adjacent lines
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>>     Editor's draft is directly viewable
>>     at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>>     IMSC Implementation
>>     Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>
>>     *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>>     *
>>     *
>>     Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>>     at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>>     * *
>>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>>     ACTION-492
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit> 	pending
>>     review 	Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>>     https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> 	Thierry
>>     Michel 	2017-01-19 	TTML versions and profiles note
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>>
>>     *
>>     *
>>     Merged pull request:
>>
>>         Update index.html
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>>         Update index.html
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there
>>         are two with the same name)
>>
>>     Open pull requests: none
>>     Closed issues: none
>>     New issue: broken link to fix
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>>
>>     https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>>     http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>>
>>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>>
>>     *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc*
>>
>>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>>     ACTION-494
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit> 	pending
>>     review 	Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>>     discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> 	Nigel
>>     Megitt 	2017-01-20 	TTML2
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>>
>>     CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html>
>>and Fwd:
>>     Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>>
>>     CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR
>>     for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html>
>>When
>>     can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>>
>>
>>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>>     ACTION-443
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> 	open
>>     Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to
>>     ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> 	Glenn
>>     Adams 	2016-08-26 	TTML2
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>     ACTION-462
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> 	open
>>     Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and
>>     profiles of ttml"
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> 	Glenn
>>     Adams 	2016-04-28 	TTML2
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>>     Most recent WD published
>>     at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>
>>     Merged Pull Requests: None
>>     Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>>     New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr'
>>     and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>>     New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto
>>     HDR video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>>     Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is
>>     incorrect. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should
>>     tts:direction apply only to <span>?
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>>     Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>>     Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>>     Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>>
>>
>>     *Focus topic for this week*
>>     Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>>     background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2,
>>     covering at least the issues:
>>
>>         Should background of a span be height of text in line or
>>         computed lineHeight? #101
>><https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>>         Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>>         Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>>         Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>>
>>     This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed
>>     IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>>
>>     Current open
>>     issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and
>>https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>>
>>     See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>>     at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>>
>>     Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>>     at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>
>>     More volunteers welcomed!
>>
>>     _TTML Change Proposals ­ progress and review_
>>
>>     Change Proposal Index is
>>     at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>>
>>     The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide
>>     Review) are:
>>
>>     5 	OPEN 	2 	Jerry Smith 	TTML2 	HTML5 Mapping semantics
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>>     7 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	3D extensions
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>>     9 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	IMSC2 	Complexity model
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>>     11 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	Metadata vocab
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>>     15 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.CSS additions
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>>     17 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.Defaults
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>>     19 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.Syntax fixes
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>>     21 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	Typography.I18n
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>>     25 	OPEN 	2 	Nigel Megitt 	TTML2 	Distribution
>>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>>
>>     *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>>
>>     Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>>
>>     *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>>
>>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>>     ACTION-441
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> 	open
>>     Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> 	Andreas
>>     Tai 	2015-11-05 	
>>
>>
>>     See 
>>https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>>     further information on this, this week.
>>
>>     Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html>
>>email
>>     from 2016-09-06.
>>
>>     [placeholder agenda item]
>>
>>     *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>>
>>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>>     ACTION-396
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> 	open
>>     Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the
>>     archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>
>>     David Singer 	2015-04-17 	WebVTT 1.0
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>     ACTION-473
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> 	open
>>     Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on
>>     vtt; need an action plan
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> 	Thierry
>>     Michel 	2016-06-30 	WebVTT 1.0
>>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>
>>
>>     Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>
>>     WebVTT Wide review wiki page:
>>https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>
>>     Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions
>>     to authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270: Add
>>     classes to specify text colour
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for
>>     region identifier to exist.
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>>     New issues: None
>>     Closed issues: None
>>     Recently discussed issues: n
>>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>>
>>     *Agenda+ AOB*
>>
>>     *References*
>>
>>     Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
>>
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