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Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:19:41 +0100
To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <bf856f83-1f60-e218-3e33-f45e743c440c@w3.org>
Nigel,
I wasn't aware of it. But it does say in your agenda ;-)

Andreas, Pierre and Pierre joined at regular schedule.

We have discussed the IMSC1 new publication.
Thierry.

Le 19/01/2017 à 17:10, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
> It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the discussion
> we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour – I
> have just begun the meeting… and just two of us are on it right now.
>
>
>
> From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk <mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>>
> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
> To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19
> Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org <mailto:public-tt@w3.org>>
> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43
>
>     *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a
>     prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>
>     *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour
>     later_*
>
>     Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>     correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>
>     Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=43
>
>     Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings)
>     Boston local
>
>     *Joining details: *
>
>     see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>     (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please
>     contact me)
>
>     *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>
>     *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>
>     *Scribe:* usually Nigel – open to offers!
>
>     *Regrets: *Thierry
>
>     *Activity since last meeting:** *
>     See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>
>
>             Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>
>         *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to issues.*
>         *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>
>
>         IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>         TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>         TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>         TTML Profile
>         Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>         TTML-WebVTT
>         mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>
>         WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>
>     *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>     *
>     *
>     Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
>     1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>     2. Profiles registry
>     3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>     4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>     5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>     6. WebVTT comments
>     7. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
>
>
>
>     Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>
>     _January Meetings:_
>
>     Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>     Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>
>     Further ahead:
>
>     Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>     Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>     Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>     Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>
>     _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of upcoming
>     work
>     at _https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work _
>
>
>     *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>
>     *IMSC 1.1 update*
>
>     *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>     Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>     Pierre's response to the recent update is
>     at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>     Email response from Shervin at
>     Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>
>     Merged pull requests:
>
>         Prepare specification for 2ED
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>         Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>         Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>         Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>         Add support for editorial area
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>
>     Open pull requests:
>
>         Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>
>     New or discussed issues:
>
>         Control background between adjacent lines
>         <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>
>     Editor's draft is directly viewable
>     at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>     IMSC Implementation
>     Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>
>     *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>     *
>     *
>     Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>     at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>     * *
>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>     ACTION-492
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit> 	pending
>     review 	Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>     https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> 	Thierry
>     Michel 	2017-01-19 	TTML versions and profiles note
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>
>     *
>     *
>     Merged pull request:
>
>         Update index.html
>         <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>         Update index.html
>         <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there
>         are two with the same name)
>
>     Open pull requests: none
>     Closed issues: none
>     New issue: broken link to fix
>     <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>
>     https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>     http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>
>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>
>     *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc*
>
>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>     ACTION-494
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit> 	pending
>     review 	Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>     discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> 	Nigel
>     Megitt 	2017-01-20 	TTML2
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>
>
>
>     CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd:
>     Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>
>     CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR
>     for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When
>     can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>
>
>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>     ACTION-443
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> 	open
>     Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to
>     ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> 	Glenn
>     Adams 	2016-08-26 	TTML2
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>     ACTION-462
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> 	open
>     Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and
>     profiles of ttml"
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> 	Glenn
>     Adams 	2016-04-28 	TTML2
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>
>
>     Most recent WD published
>     at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>
>     Merged Pull Requests: None
>     Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics
>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>     New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr'
>     and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.
>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>     New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto
>     HDR video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>     Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is
>     incorrect. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should
>     tts:direction apply only to <span>?
>     <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>     Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>     Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>     Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>
>
>     *Focus topic for this week*
>     Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>     background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2,
>     covering at least the issues:
>
>         Should background of a span be height of text in line or
>         computed lineHeight? #101 <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>         Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>         Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163
>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>         Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>         <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>
>     This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed
>     IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>     <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>
>
>     Current open
>     issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>
>     See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>     at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>
>     Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>     at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>
>     More volunteers welcomed!
>
>     _TTML Change Proposals – progress and review_
>
>     Change Proposal Index is
>     at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>
>     The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide
>     Review) are:
>
>     5 	OPEN 	2 	Jerry Smith 	TTML2 	HTML5 Mapping semantics
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>     7 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	3D extensions
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>     9 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	IMSC2 	Complexity model
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>     11 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	Metadata vocab
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>     15 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.CSS additions
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>     17 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.Defaults
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>     19 	OPEN 	2 	Glenn Adams 	TTML2 	Style.Syntax fixes
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>     21 	OPEN 	2 	Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 	TTML2 	Typography.I18n
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>     25 	OPEN 	2 	Nigel Megitt 	TTML2 	Distribution
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>
>     *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>
>     Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>
>     *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>
>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>     ACTION-441
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> 	open
>     Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> 	Andreas
>     Tai 	2015-11-05 	
>
>
>     See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>     further information on this, this week.
>
>     Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>     <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email
>     from 2016-09-06.
>
>     [placeholder agenda item]
>
>     *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>
>     ID 	State 	Title 	Person 	Due Date 	Associated with
>     ACTION-396
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> 	open
>     Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the
>     archive <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>
>     David Singer 	2015-04-17 	WebVTT 1.0
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>     ACTION-473
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> 	open
>     Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on
>     vtt; need an action plan
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> 	Thierry
>     Michel 	2016-06-30 	WebVTT 1.0
>     <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>
>
>     Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>
>     WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>
>     Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions
>     to authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270: Add
>     classes to specify text colour
>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for
>     region identifier to exist.
>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>     New issues: None
>     Closed issues: None
>     Recently discussed issues: n
>     <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>
>     *Agenda+ AOB*
>
>     *References*
>
>     Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>
>
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