- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:10:10 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D4A69436.35016%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
It appears I may have created some confusion by actioning the discussion we had about moving the regular weekly meeting later by one hour – I have just begun the meeting… and just two of us are on it right now. From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk<mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>> Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43 To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org<mailto:public-tt@w3.org>> Subject: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19 Resent-From: <public-tt@w3.org<mailto:public-tt@w3.org>> Resent-Date: Tuesday, 17 January 2017 at 21:43 This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 11:03am Boston time. As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now 1 hour later Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change. Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=43 Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings) Boston local Joining details: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me) Agenda+ Assign Roles Chairs: Nigel Megitt Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers! Regrets: Thierry Activity since last meeting: See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering: 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) 2. Profiles registry 3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc 4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document 5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal 6. WebVTT comments 7. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now! Reminder re future milestones and meetings: January Meetings: Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Further ahead: Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) IMSC 1.1 update Unicode CLDR discussion Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html Merged pull requests: Prepare specification for 2ED<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>; Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>; Added a note that #zIndex is not used<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>; Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>; Add support for editorial area<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196> Open pull requests: Add support for fillLineGap and optional features<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200> New or discussed issues: Control background between adjacent lines<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195> Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. Agenda+ Profiles registry. Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/ ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-492<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit> pending review Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492> Thierry Michel 2017-01-19 TTML versions and profiles note<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12> Merged pull request: Update index.html<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34> Update index.html<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there are two with the same name) Open pull requests: none Closed issues: none New issue: broken link to fix<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-494<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit> pending review Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494> Nigel Megitt 2017-01-20 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/ Merged Pull Requests: None Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218> New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr' and 'rtl' in vertical writing modes.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228> New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto HDR video<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233> Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should tts:direction apply only to <span>?<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227> Closed TTML2 Issues: none Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list] Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list] Focus topic for this week Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2, covering at least the issues: Should background of a span be height of text in line or computed lineHeight? #101<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101> Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150> Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163> Add support for adjacent background area merging #189<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189> This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195> Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md More volunteers welcomed! TTML Change Proposals – progress and review Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are: 5 OPEN 2 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005> 7 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007> 9 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux IMSC2 Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009> 11 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011> 15 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015> 17 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017> 19 OPEN 2 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019> 21 OPEN 2 Pierre-Anthony Lemieux TTML2 Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021> 25 OPEN 2 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025> Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/ Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update. ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas Tai 2015-11-05 See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week. Also HTML import and HTMLCue?<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email from 2016-09-06. [placeholder agenda item] Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> ACTION-473<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit> open Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473> Thierry Michel 2016-06-30 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps. WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions to authors.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>; Fix #270: Add classes to specify text colour<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for region identifier to exist.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201> New issues: None Closed issues: None Recently discussed issues: n<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one Agenda+ AOB References Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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