Re: TPWG Agenda for the October 09 call (V04)

Hi Matthias,

Thank you for the clarification on the M2 Phase duration for Issue-5.

For planning purposes, I have two follow-up questions:

1) Can you clarify whether the duration for Phase M2 will remain at 1 week for all issues or will the duration for Phase M2 be adjusted on an issue-by-issue basis?

2) And somewhat related to my first question, will the Phase M2 duration be the same for Issue-10 as for Issue-5?

Best regards,

Jack

Jack L. Hobaugh Jr
Network Advertising Initiative | Counsel & Senior Director of Technology 
1634 Eye St. NW, Suite 750 Washington, DC 20006
P: 202-347-5341 | jack@networkadvertising.org





On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:00 AM, "Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)" <mts-std@schunter.org> wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> 
> thanks for asking.
> 
> Now that the change proposals for ISSUE-5 have been frozen (or will be frozen by EoB today), our current plan is to allow for 1 week to see whether a consensus emerges.
> If no consensus has emerged, we currently plan to issue a call for objections 1 week later (with a closing date of October 23 as indicated in the plan).
> 
> Feedback/comments are welcome...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> matthias
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/10/2013 20:16, David Singer wrote:
>> at least on the definition of tracking, I think it's possible a consensus could emerge, so I would also like clarity on how we handle this phase (and for how long).
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 8:25 , Jack L. Hobaugh Jr <jack@networkadvertising.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for providing the "V04" clarifications.
>>> 
>>> For Issue-5 and Issue-10, it is understood that TPWG will begin phase M2 on October 8.
>>> 
>>> It is also understood that M2 starts a duration for a "[d]iscussion whether clear consensus emerges for one change proposal" and that Phase M3 would include an announcement for "Call for objections to validate / determine consensus" that would start a 14-day window for submitting objections.
>>> 
>>> I believe there remains some confusion within the TPWG regarding the duration of Phase M2.
>>> 
>>> Would you please provide the planned duration of Phase M2 or the planned date for the beginning of Phase M3 (in the event consensus is not reached) for Issue-5 and Issue-10?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Jack
>>> 
>>> Jack L. Hobaugh Jr
>>> Network Advertising Initiative | Counsel & Senior Director of Technology
>>> 1634 Eye St. NW, Suite 750 Washington, DC 20006
>>> P: 202-347-5341 | jack@networkadvertising.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) <mts-std@schunter.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Team,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks a lot for submitting your issues on time. The list of ISSUEs now ends with ISSUE-237 and we have 45 active issues to pursue.
>>>> 
>>>> Enclosed is another draft of an agenda for next Wednesday based on feedback I received.
>>>> Feedback/comments are welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> V04:
>>>> - I added a discussion on how to perform changes to the working drafts
>>>> - I moved the survey of new issues to the end to ensure sufficient time for processing the active issues
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> matthias
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Confirmation of scribe.  Volunteers welcome
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Offline-caller-identification (see end for instructions)
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Introducing changes to the editors drafts (Matthias)
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Discussion on testing of specifications (Carl)
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> ---- issues for this Call ---
>>>> 
>>>> Note: See more info at the end for details.
>>>> 
>>>> 5.  ISSUE-10 [Justin]
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/10
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_Party_Definitions
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-10:
>>>>     October 02: M1 Call for final list of change proposals
>>>>     October 08: M2 List of change proposals is frozen + Discussion whether clear consensus emerges for one change proposal
>>>>   6. ISSUE-5  [Matthias]
>>>>     http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/5
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_Tracking_Definition
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-5:
>>>>     October 02: M1 Call for final list of change proposals
>>>>     October 08: M2 List of change proposals is frozen + Discussion whether clear consensus emerges for one change proposal
>>>>   7. ISSUE-24 [Carl]
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/24
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_Security
>>>> 
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-24:
>>>>     Oct 02: M0: Initial call for change proposals; Submit all change proposals
>>>>     Oct 08: M1 Call for final list of change proposals
>>>> 
>>>> 08. ISSUE-25 [Justin]
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/25
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_Audience_Measurement
>>>> 
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-25:
>>>>     Oct 02: M0: Initial call for change proposals; Submit all change proposals
>>>>     Oct 08: M1 Discuss change proposals + Call for final list of change proposals
>>>> 
>>>> 09. ISSUE-170 [Matthias] Definition of and what/whether limitations around data append and first parties
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/170
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_First_Party_Compliance
>>>> 
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-170:
>>>>     Oct 09: M0: Initial call for change proposals; Submit all change proposals
>>>>     Oct 15: M1 Discuss change proposals + Call for final list of change proposals
>>>> 
>>>> 09. ISSUE-16 [Carl] Definition of and what/whether limitations around data append and first parties
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/16
>>>>      http://www.w3.org/wiki/Privacy/TPWG/Change_Proposal_Transience_Collection
>>>> 
>>>>     DEADLINES for ISSUE-170: What does it mean to collect, retain, use and share data?
>>>>     Oct 09: M0: Initial call for change proposals; Submit all change proposals
>>>>     Oct 15: M1 Discuss change proposals + Call for final list of change proposals
>>>> 
>>>> 10. (if time permits): Introduction/explanation of new issues (Matthias)
>>>>     fyi:  The new issues that we have not discussed are ISSUE-224 through ISSUE-237.
>>>> 
>>>> ================ Summary Documentation on Resolving ISSUES =================
>>>> Complete list of issues against the compliance-current spec:
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/products/5
>>>> 
>>>> PHASES to resolve issues:
>>>> M0 (announcement): Initial call for change proposals; All change proposals should be drafted
>>>> M1 (discussion): Initial change proposals have been submitted; Discussion on change proposals; Call for final list of change proposals
>>>> M2 (discussion): List of change proposals is frozen; Discussion whether clear consensus emerges for one change proposal
>>>> M3 (announcement): Call for objections to validate / determine consensus
>>>> M5 (deadline): Deadline for inputs to call for objections (2 weeks after M3); Analysis starts
>>>> M7 (announcement): Results are announced
>>>> 
>>>> STATUS of the ISSUES:
>>>> - OPEN During phases M0, M1, M2
>>>> - PENDING REVIEW: During phases M3, M5
>>>> - CLOSED after M7
>>>> All other issues are RAISED.
>>>> -----
>>>> This URL
>>>> As indicated in our plan, the following issues are currently OPEN for discussion in our calls.
>>>> ================ Infrastructure =================
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> please email your name and phone number to
>>>> npdoty@w3.org<mailto:npdoty@w3.org>. We want to reduce (in fact,
>>>> eliminate) the time spent on the call identifying phone numbers. Note
>>>> that if your number is not identified and you do not respond to
>>>> off-the-phone reminders via IRC, you will be dropped from the call.
>>>> 
>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>> 
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