- From: Peter Cranstone <peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:09:43 -0600
- To: "SULLIVAN, BRYAN L" <bs3131@att.com>, "Delaney, Elizabeth A" <EDELANEY@ftc.gov>, "'public-tracking@w3.org'" <public-tracking@w3.org>
- CC: "Vandecar, Kim" <KVANDECAR@ftc.gov>, "Thompson, Kimberly M." <kthompson@ftc.gov>
- Message-ID: <CC07B3DF.3E0D%peter.cranstone@gmail.com>
Bryan, Agreed therefor it is now incumbent on the server to verify that it is indeed the users INTENT to send a DNT:1 IF it suspects that the user may not have made that setting. The debate should be about how that happens. See my posts on Mod_DNT and blacklists etc. Peter ___________________________________ Peter J. Cranstone 720.663.1752 From: "SULLIVAN, BRYAN L" <bs3131@att.com> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: Peter Cranstone <peter.cranstone@gmail.com>, "Delaney, Elizabeth A" <EDELANEY@ftc.gov>, W3 Tracking <public-tracking@w3.org> Cc: "Vandecar, Kim" <KVANDECAR@ftc.gov>, "Thompson, Kimberly M." <kthompson@ftc.gov> Subject: RE: Letter from Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch, Federal Trade Commission > Comment inline. > > > Thanks, > Bryan Sullivan > > > From: Peter Cranstone [mailto:peter.cranstone@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:42 PM > To: Delaney, Elizabeth A; 'public-tracking@w3.org' > Cc: Vandecar, Kim; Thompson, Kimberly M. > Subject: Re: Letter from Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch, Federal Trade > Commission > > > Elizabeth, > > > > RE: "Microsoft not consumers will be exercising the choice as to what signal > the browser will send". > > > > I have to disagree. Microsoft made a public announcement of the browser > setting. I knew that when I installed the software. The Microsoft default was > my choice when I installed the software, and they also provided me with a way > to change my choice if need be. > [bryan] It *may* have been your choice when you installed the software (if you > were in some way made aware of this, but I doubt if there would be a > verifiable record of that), but there are also many other ways this software > can come into your use, in which you are likely to be unaware of this feature; > through an automatic update (in which this is a new feature); through purchase > of a new PC/device; through using an Internet kiosk; Š > > > > RE: "But it does not solve the fact that the recipients of the signal must > still choose to honor the signal and refrain from tracking consumers and/or > collecting data about them". > > > > In essence it does solve the fact. A server as per the spec that is said to be > honoring the DNT setting MUST refrain from tracking consumers and/or > collecting data about them. What the spec does NOT resolve is the following: > > > > If said server receives a DNT:1 setting that the server believes is coming > from an invalid browser (by the way there is no such thing as an invalid DNT > setting because it's binary) then it MAY chose to ignore that setting. > > > > The dilemma is now apparent. The user has expressed his/her choice by sending > valid DNT setting the server has now also made a choice, to not honor it. > Therefore it MUST respond to the user indicating it's status. > > > > The current spec reads with the word "MAY" respond. This is inadequate and > opens up a wealth of legal responses all of which are not good. DNT is binary > if you see the 1 setting and you support honoring that setting then you MUST > do as it says. If you lack sufficient context about "WHO" made that setting > (Microsoft, Me or other 3rd party software) then you MUST request more data > from the user. > > > > > > > Peter > ___________________________________ > Peter J. Cranstone > 720.663.1752 > > > > From: "Delaney, Elizabeth A" <EDELANEY@ftc.gov> > Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:11 AM > To: W3 Tracking <public-tracking@w3.org> > Cc: "Vandecar, Kim" <KVANDECAR@ftc.gov>, "Thompson, Kimberly M." > <kthompson@ftc.gov> > Subject: Letter from Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch, Federal Trade Commission > Resent-From: W3 Tracking <public-tracking@w3.org> > Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:31:06 +0000 > > >> >> Dear Members of the W3C Tracking Protection Working Group: >> >> Please see the attached letter from Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch. Please >> let us know if you have any questions. Thank you, >> >> >> Elizabeth Delaney >> Attorney Advisor >> Office of Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch >> Federal Trade Commission >> 600 Pennsylvania Ave NW >> Washington, DC 20580 >> 202-326-2903 >> >>
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