- From: <rob@blaeu.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:37:26 +0100 (CET)
- To: "Shane Wiley" <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
- Cc: "Haakon Bratsberg" <haakon.bratsberg@opera.com>, "Karl Dubost" <karld@opera.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
I am fine with that. please use it in the text proposal. Shane Wiley wrote: > I cannot think of any cases where a Service Provider is not somehow > receiving compensation for their services from the 1st Party. If it > helps, we can add this to the definition to make it very clear. > > - Shane > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob@blaeu.com [mailto:rob@blaeu.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:00 AM > To: Shane Wiley > Cc: Haakon Bratsberg; Karl Dubost; rob@blaeu.com; public-tracking@w3.org > Subject: RE: technical, business, legal definitions > > Question, is there any contractual realtion between the controller and the > Service Provider? I mean, if there is a money-flow, there will most likely > be a paper trail. > > If so, then Shane is correct. > > Rob > > Shane Wiley wrote: >> Haakon, >> >> Agreed - but our extended Service Provider definition includes "with no >> independent rights to use the data outside of 1st party direction" which >> is fairly aligned with the general legal tenets of a Data Processor >> definition. >> >> Again - open for subjective interpretation due to the lack of more >> detail >> but generally "very close". >> >> - Shane >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Haakon Bratsberg [mailto:haakon.bratsberg@opera.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:13 PM >> To: Shane Wiley >> Cc: Karl Dubost; rob@blaeu.com; public-tracking@w3.org >> (public-tracking@w3.org) >> Subject: Re: technical, business, legal definitions >> >> On 25. jan. 2012, at 18:53, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: >> >>> Generally whether expected or not, we've come close to this same >>> structure (to some degree) with the following terms: >>> >>> - 1st Party (Data Controller) >>> - Service Provider (Data Processor) >>> - 3rd Party (3rd Party) >> >> I do not expect Service Provider = Data Processor to be globally true. >> It >> depends on the legal relationship between 1st Part and Service Provider. >> >> Haakon >> >> >>> >>> - Shane >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Karl Dubost [mailto:karld@opera.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:57 AM >>> To: rob@blaeu.com >>> Cc: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org) >>> Subject: technical, business, legal definitions >>> >>> This morning in Bruxelles, Roy proposed to use the definitions of >>> European commission prose about >>> >>> * Processor >>> * Third Parties >>> * Controller >>> >>> Rob said that it was better to focus on technical definitions, than the >>> legal, business ones of Europe. Currently, I have the feeling that our >>> definitions are _not_ technical specifically in the compliance >>> document. >>> A technical definition of 1st party/3rd party in terms of the HTTP >>> protocol will be very defined but it's not what we have done so far. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Dubost - http://dev.opera.com/ >>> Developer Relations, Opera Software >>> >>> >> >> > > > >
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