- From: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:36:49 +0100
- To: Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com>
- Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
While I appreciate the example for formatting a chair decision, I hope we don't take any lessons from the HTML WG decision-making process. A real WG makes decisions based on the discussion on the mailing list, minuted meetings, how *all* of the implementations of that technology implement it now, and the definitive statements made by WG members regarding how they intend to implement. That is what the chairs should consider when there is a need to decide consensus. Introducing arbitrary deadlines and limited-time polls in which uninformed opinions and ditto crowds are considered equal to the aforementioned discussion and implementation experience is ridiculous. Having the chairs regularly meet in private to make arbitrary decisions on the basis of those polls, while completely disregarding the entire history of the discussion and the known implementation facts/plans, is absurd. And one result of that absurdity is the worst specification ever developed in any standards forum. It is ignored by implementors -- one half claim to be implementing the WHATWG version instead and the other half have no choice but to ignore the irrelevant browser specs because they aren't writing a browser. Regardless, neither spec accurately reflects what WebKit implements as HTML, so WebKit has become the de facto standard. The chairs' perception of making progress is nothing more than a pyrrhic victory. ....Roy On Jan 26, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: > Following the discussion we had this morning about the process on closing some issues, here is an example of a chair decision over an issue in the HTML WG. [1] > > It outlines > > *** Question before the Working Group *** > == Uncontested observations: > *** Decision of the Working Group *** > == Next Steps == > == Appealing this Decision == > == Revisiting this Issue == > == Arguments not considered > > [1]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0372 > > -- > Karl Dubost - http://dev.opera.com/ > Developer Relations, Opera Software > >
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