- From: Jon Phipps <jphipps@madcreek.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:44:56 -0500
- To: "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Cc: "Guus Schreiber" <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>, public-swd-wg@w3.org
Hi Guus, I have to agree with Antoine, especially his "rather stupid argument". It seems to me that the inherent meaning and value of a "pref" Label in the context of a concept is its singularity and that a constraint _requiring_ (rather than simply recommending) language-specific singularity of prefLable actually seems more reasonable to me than a loosening of the restriction. Under the circumstances simply recommending it seems like the least inhibitive approach. --Jon On 2/27/07, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: > > Hi Guus, > > I'm not really convinced by this argument, for two reasons: > - relevance to domain practice: even if a motivation for the constraint > in ISO and other thesaurus modelling approaches (especially term-based > ones, which are still encountered in many situations) was this reference > uniqueness, there are also strong normalization issues underway. People > managing thesauri are often spending a lot of time distilling *the* term > that embodies the concept in the best way. And while standard database > have been allowing for unique keys for decades, they still keep to this > constraint on the labels. > - coherence of the model: if we remove all the cardinality constraints, > what would be the indended meaning of a preferred label? This might > sound a rather stupid argument, but I really cannot see what makes a > label 'preferred' if its associated concept has two such labels. > > Cheers, > > Antoine > > > > > > > > > Guus Schreiber wrote: > > > >> > >> While trying to write down a resolution for the relationship between > >> labels I found: > >> > >> in the Core Guide, section on Multilingual La belling [1] > >> > >> [[ > >> It is recommended that no two concepts in the same concept scheme > >> be given the same > >> preferred lexical label in any given language. > >> ]] > >> > >> in the Core Specification, table of prefLabel [2] > >> > >> [[ > >> No two concepts in the same concept scheme may have the same value > >> for skos:prefLabel > >> in a given language. > >> ]] > > > > > > I see no need for placing a constraint on the uniqueness of > > skos:prefLabel. While some/many vocabularies will actually abide to > > this, the URI of the concept the label is related already ensures > > uniqueness of the concept being identified (which I assume was the > > reason for including this constraint in the ISO spec). I also suggest > > that there is no need to place cardinality constraints on skos:prefLabel. > > > > The underlying rationale is that we should refrain from overcommiting > > the SKOS specification when there is no clear need. > > > > I want to raise this as an issue and propose the above as a resolution. > > > >> > >> The weaker constraint in the Guide makes sense to me. I will most > >> likely propose an even weaker version in my resolution. > >> > >> Guus > >> > >> > >> > >> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-swbp-skos-core-guide-20051102/#secmulti > >> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec/#prefLabel > > > > > > >
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