- From: Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
- Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:13:46 +0100
- To: SW Best Practices <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>
SWBPD VM 2006-01-31 telecon agenda
Tuesday, 15:00 UTC (16:00 Berlin)
http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20060131
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Recent telecons
-- 2006-01-24: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0125.html
-- 2006-02-01: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0028.html
Next telecons (weekly)
-- 2005-02-14 Tue 1500 UTC http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20060214
-- 2005-02-21 Tue 1500 UTC http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20060221
AGENDA
-- Process for publishing cookbook [1] as a Working Draft (see [2],
appended as text below).
-- Outstanding technical issues? (See "recent telecons", above)
-- Testing
ACTION: Ralph to test recipes with W3C configuration.
-- Longer-term issue: alignment of content-negotiation ideas
in the cookbook with TAG:
-- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#namespaceDocument-8
-- Associating Resources with Namespaces
Draft TAG Finding 13 December 2005
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments-2005-12-13/
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/VM/http-examples/2006-01-18/
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0049.html
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SWBPD VM 2006-02-06 Task force update
The Vocabulary Management Task Force would like to propose
"Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies"
[1] for publication as a Working Draft.
In recent VM telecons [2], we have been discussing the reviews
provided by David Booth and Andreas Harth. We would like
to ask David and Andreas now to look at our notes (below)
and let us know if they agree with our request to publish a
Working Draft.
We just discussed this request on the Feb 6 SWBPD telecon
and agreed on the following timetable:
-- David Booth would like to propose some words on how to select
which type of URI to use. We have asked him to provide this
before the VM telecon of Feb 14.
-- Next VM telecons are on Feb 7 and Feb 14 [3].
-- Having heard back from David and Andreas and received text
from David, by Feb 17 we post a proposal to the list to
publish as a Working Draft.
-- In the Feb 20 telecon, SWBPD takes a decision.
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/VM/http-examples/2006-01-18/
[2] Recent telecons
2006-01-24: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0125.html
2006-01-31: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0180.html
[3] Next telecons (weekly)
2005-02-07 Tue 1500 UTC http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20060207
2005-02-14 Tue 1500 UTC http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20060214
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Responses to reviews
-- David Booth review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Dec/0124.html
-- Global suggestions
G1. To discuss trade-offs between hash and slash URIs
Response: Ralph has addressed this with added text in the
introduction. David has not yet indicated whether he is
satisfied.
G2. To avoid purl.org recipes, which violate TAG resolution
with 302 redirect code.
Problem with purl.org: It is not enough to change all 302s to
303s because 302 is appropriate for most URIs. So the purl.org
maintainers would have to implement a feature for users to
specify that some resource is a non-information resource.
This would require changes to the database. Are there any
options to do a double redirection? I.e. if purl returns a
302 redirect, then my own server does a 303. On Jan 17, decided
to clarify with TAG whether inferences are supposed to be made
already on the initial response code.
ACTION (DONE Jan 17): Alistair drafted the question (i.e., that only the
initial response code matters) for discussion in BPD, then to send to TAG:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0076.html
This draft note to TAG
-- suggests they coin a URI for class "resource"
(tag:informationResource) so that things like rdfs:Class,
owl:Class, and rdf:Property could be declared disjoint with it.
-- requests clarification on what implication one can draw when
303 is returned as opposed to 200 ("X is a tag:infoResource").
(Note: In follow-up, David Booth suggested
a draft "HTTP URI-Identity-Algorithm",
out of scope for the VM TF per se:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0116.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0165.html)
ACTION - DONE: Alistair put the purl.org material into an Appendix.
-- Specific recipes
Recipe 3. Interpretation of a fragment identifier in the
presence of 303 redirects is unclear, so recipe
should note that browser may or may not apply
fragment identifier to secondary URI.
-- Editorial suggestions
E1. Shorter URIs in the examples would be better.
Alistair would rather leave the longer URIs for now because
a UK server is configured to support them, see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0034.html.
Ralph suggests using w3c URIs in the final version (with
shorter URIs for the examples).
E2. At the beginning of each recipe, say what the URIs would return.
Alistair proposes to illustrate this graphically, so added images
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0034.html.
David Booth actually intended simply to spell out which URIs
are redirected to. Ralph wonders whether the images really add any
new information.
On Jan 18, Alistair reorganized recipes 1 and
2, adding short description of outcomes as
per Booth suggestion. Added examples with
expected outcomes for purpose of testing.
Wants to organize the rest like this when
IE6 bug resolved.
-- Andreas Harth review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0004.html
-- The document has too many choices - suggests
cutting down to 3 or 4 covering 80% of the cases.
-- Suggests content negotiation instead of mod_rewrite
modules. Response at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Dec/0016.html
-- Suggests mod_alias instead of mod_rewrite.
-- Maybe put purl.org examples into an appendix.
--
Dr. Thomas Baker baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de
SUB - Goettingen State +49-551-39-3883
and University Library +49-30-8109-9027
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--
Dr. Thomas Baker baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de
SUB - Goettingen State +49-551-39-3883
and University Library +49-30-8109-9027
Papendiek 14, 37073 Göttingen
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