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Re: [rdftm, port, etc] another example: William and Chet

From: Guus Schreiber <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:55:58 +0100
Message-ID: <422F7EFE.5010400@cs.vu.nl>
To: Christopher Welty <welty@us.ibm.com>
CC: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>, public-swbp-wg@w3.org

Christopher Welty wrote:

> 
> I think the issue of identification is both important and extremely 
> difficult.  I suggest that this is big enough to be a task force in itself.

Any takers for writing a draft TF description? If so, we can put in on 
the agenda for the next telecon.

My suugestion would be that, if we think such a TF should be on our 
priority list, we start it only after some of the current TFs are finished.

Guus

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> -Chris
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> Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
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> 03/07/2005 08:38 PM
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> 	[rdftm, port, etc] another example: William and Chet
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> Here's an example from FOAF discussions a couple of years ago.
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> http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/photos/1957/
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> Libby and I were talking about how best to describe a photo
> which depicted William Loughborough and Chet Baker. By 'best', I mean
> in this case, a way which maximises the chance of semweb-style data
> merging with other sources of information relating to these people. In
> William's case, I might want to read his latest blog posts and email
> messages; in Chet's, I might want more photos, or pages/books about him.
> In both cases, I'd like to download (creative commons-licensed) music
> that relates to them (recordings, cover versions, etc...). For all these
> scenarios, the common problem is identification.
> 
> In FOAF/RDF we'd use William's mailbox, homepage etc. That's easy. For
> Chet, we'd need to find another indirect identifier. In
> http://rdfweb.org/pipermail/rdfweb-dev/2003-September/012001.html  Libby
> suggests using a TAP id.
> 
> I'd be very interested to see this worked through in a TopicMaps context
> too, as well as SKOS. How should we specify things such that TM data,
> SKOS thesauri, and other RDF datasets can be mixed together in a
> queriable manner?
> 
> thanks for any thoughts,
> 
> danbri
> 
> ps. some links for examples:
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> Chet Baker in MusicBrainz
> http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=4326
> -> http://musicbrainz.org/artistinfo.html?artistid=4326
> ->
> http://mm.musicbrainz.org/mm-2.1/artist/1ba1d493-7114-45e2-b163-a36d49a0c065
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> Chet Baker in Open Directory (DMoz),
> http://dmoz.org/Arts/Music/Styles/Jazz/Bands_and_Artists/B/Baker,_Chet/
> (which is available in a giant RDF dump that uses a SKOS-like structure)
> 
> William's homepage, http://w3.gorge.net/love26/
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> a document that has him as a foaf:primaryTopic:
> http://rdfweb.org/people/danbri/2002/02/blindless/
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> basically, it's great having all these kinds of things in RDF, but it'd
> be even better if we could figure out which nodes in these different
> graphs denoted the same thing.
> http://rdfweb.org/mt/foaflog/archives/2003/07/10/12.05.33/ describes
> the OWL-powered approach FOAF uses... I'd like to work thru a
> comparision with Topic Maps and end up in situation where we can
> answer real questions using SPARQL that draw on both kinds of data...
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