- From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:27:47 +0100
- To: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, "henry.story@bblfish.net" <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- CC: Social Web Working Group <public-socialweb@w3.org>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/08/2015 11:54 AM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote: > On 03/08/2015 08:18 AM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote: >> >>> On 8 Mar 2015, at 02:56, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote: >>> >> >> >> On 03/07/2015 10:13 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote: >>>>> On 03/07/2015 06:32 PM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2015, at 18:17, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ >>>>>>> <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/07/2015 06:05 PM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote: >>>>>>>> [snip] Tanket wrote: " too much plumbing for v1." >>>>>>>> What is too much plumbing? >>>>>>> Henry, both Tantek and Aaron choose not to participate >>>>>>> in this mailing list, I recommend you discussing it >>>>>>> with them over IRC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you can lave messages there using !tell e.g. !tell >>>>>>> tantek let's talk about Using a Smart Client >>>>>> >>>>>> ?!? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry but participation in W3C WG requires all members to >>>>>> use the same mailing list. We can't just work over 20 >>>>>> different channels. What is written elsewhere, is not >>>>>> archived by the W3C and so has no weight in the process. >>>>> You could also meet on IRC and even use one time call >>>>> bridge >>>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig#Instructions_for_creating_a_one-time_call_bridge >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK you can invite RRSAgent any time to #social IRC channel and >>>>> it will log the conversation >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent >>>>> >>>>> Henry, I can understand your frustration but also please >>>>> understand that Tantek, Aaron and other IndieWeb folks find >>>>> mailing lists unproductive and draining energy. IMO we >>>>> don't have 20 but just 4 official channels: mailing-list, >>>>> wiki, IRC, tracker + telecons which gives us enough >>>>> flexibility to not force others to do something they really >>>>> don't want to do. And I know that you use IRC anyways :) >>>>> >>>>> BTW on #indiewebcamp IRC i see Postel's law mentioned >>>>> pretty often >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle "Be >>>>> conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you >>>>> accept" >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like clarification on process from the W3C >> >> They are subscribed to the mailing list and attend calls. >> However, I don't think there's any part of W3C process that >> requires WG members to respond to every email they get. I suggest >> that you try to chat with them over IRC as well, and we can raise >> this issue on the next telecon. >> >>> Fine for raising it at the next teleconf. > added to > https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-03-10#Additional_Agenda_Items > > Yes, it's important that everyone have their voices heard. It's normal in W3C to use IRC and a wiki in addition to email. I do agree its a problem when folks get "out of sync" with communication tools, which is why weekly telecons are important. cheers, harry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU/FxiAAoJEPgwUoSfMzqcf/cQAIt7L1mW7cfFWzs+jpLZpH9z o7D/qAra/bETSMswF0KE2Yp7Wy91aKUAj3UqJKDrbS9O6qsLu1yIAlkLhrkmnKZ8 QLGC4oWh1V50FIvN4LmIitrW7sJWz/biGdklR1t3oYXkmm6Av2BWpBcfEjb6RS8x izwh6OH+VaKfuVXISIDrs4yOGZ32tTysxgt2pf8/CzXPDapZyf+9S1Y8f/gBvBka R7axrYsIQhzQhPd72dUriYH6cO4mNcYGGtbSAgrQikpTF5bvdkABrB7zWhp0wYv9 bslFlH6PuCS2LmBUGgSkXouRi+qcOZCrbJwlJ6iy46h3jDA2n2YoCEIxIqR9FbtX rn6NE+V0V8hNc0y05lTF8YzHIX5+djE+PNjX//gpeeQva62i8YugamYwZUs3C5Rr fg82kkrts3T99Qmq//20FXMdS0ExminT4zJvZ5hLl9mKV3eJh71W7ALyZEeM3fYP wy9mhBAFYf6KJyfcPouuRM3W3iJy7OVGEZ/p9WABFe4h8HwNmj0pz6EAWTS9bm/B 2DE4WGAA1uOY7KUSEmu8clxW3ONnZgxY+19S30K6fz3LvVtLJIpzq/4OMAQB1IhO 2QXw6tN1d1KH5Afqvei2XNOl1eO6G0Yy9xWnJ0DagoSxN/xMGoehikDMJFhOw9Ff 0MwGiVVpHrpJPodVwQJp =bUvn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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