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Re: process request -- was: Using a Smart Client

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:27:47 +0100
Message-ID: <54FC5C63.3000401@w3.org>
To: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, "henry.story@bblfish.net" <henry.story@bblfish.net>
CC: Social Web Working Group <public-socialweb@w3.org>
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On 03/08/2015 11:54 AM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
> On 03/08/2015 08:18 AM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2015, at 02:56, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/07/2015 10:13 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
>>>>> On 03/07/2015 06:32 PM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2015, at 18:17, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ 
>>>>>>> <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/07/2015 06:05 PM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote:
>>>>>>>> [snip] Tanket wrote: " too much plumbing for v1."
>>>>>>>> What is too much plumbing?
>>>>>>> Henry, both Tantek and Aaron choose not to participate
>>>>>>> in this mailing list, I recommend you discussing it
>>>>>>> with them over IRC
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> you can lave messages there using !tell e.g. !tell
>>>>>>> tantek let's talk about Using a Smart Client
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?!?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry but participation in W3C WG requires all members to
>>>>>> use the same mailing list. We can't just work over 20
>>>>>> different channels. What is written elsewhere, is not
>>>>>> archived by the W3C and so has no weight in the process.
>>>>> You could also meet on IRC and even use one time call
>>>>> bridge 
>>>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig#Instructions_for_creating_a_one-time_call_bridge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
AFAIK you can invite RRSAgent any time to #social IRC channel and
>>>>> it will log the conversation
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
>>>>> 
>>>>> Henry, I can understand your frustration but also please
>>>>> understand that Tantek, Aaron and other IndieWeb folks find
>>>>> mailing lists unproductive and draining energy. IMO we
>>>>> don't have 20 but just 4 official channels: mailing-list,
>>>>> wiki, IRC, tracker + telecons which gives us enough
>>>>> flexibility to not force others to do something they really
>>>>> don't want to do. And I know that you use IRC anyways :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW on #indiewebcamp IRC i see Postel's law mentioned
>>>>> pretty often 
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle "Be
>>>>> conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you
>>>>> accept"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like clarification on process from the W3C
>> 
>> They are subscribed to the mailing list and attend calls.
>> However, I don't think there's any part of W3C process that
>> requires WG members to respond to every email they get. I suggest
>> that you try to chat with them over IRC as well, and we can raise
>> this issue on the next telecon.
>> 
>>> Fine for raising it at the next teleconf.
> added to 
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-03-10#Additional_Agenda_Items
>
> 
Yes, it's important that everyone have their voices heard. It's normal
in W3C to use IRC and a wiki in addition to email. I do agree its a
problem when folks get "out of sync" with communication tools, which
is why weekly telecons are important.

         cheers,
              harry
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