[w3c sml][agenda] 2008-02-21 SML Telecon

Kumar/Jordan, it appears you may be scribing this week. 

Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format 
  [w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML          in subject of email ([agenda] 
agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" = 
update number, 1st update == 2, etc. 
  [w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML   in subject of email ([agenda] 
[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around the 
scribe list are time-sequenced 
  i.e. less to remember

The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on the 
WG's administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone 

Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's 
administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc

Teleconference Time and Length (two hours) 
Pacific   11 AM -  1 PM 
Mountain  12 PM -  2 PM 
Central    1 PM -  3 PM 
Eastern    2 PM -  4 PM 
UK         7 PM -  9 PM 
Paris      8 PM - 10 PM 

Upcoming publication moratoria:
 * 15 April 2008: Deadline for publication requests 
                  before moratorium [12pm ET]
 * 17 April: Last publications before moratorium
 * 20 - 27 April: No publications
         - 20-22 April 2008: AC meeting in Beijing
         - 21-25 April 2008: WWW 2008
 * 28 April: Publications resume.

Proposed Agenda: 

1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent) 

2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
   New scribes see: 
   - Scribe Quick Start Guide 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 
   - Scribe FAQ 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 
   - Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing 
and sending out minutes

Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
2007-08-30        Lipton, Paul              until mid-January 2007
2008-01-03        Kumar, Pandit
2008-01-17        Boucher, Jordan
2008-01-21        Gao, Sandy
2008-01-22        Wilson, Kirk
2008-01-22        Eckert, Zulah
2008-01-23        Smith, Virginia
2008-02-07        Lynn, James 
2008-02-14        Valentina Popescu
Exempt            Arwe, John
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul
Exempt            MSM
Exempt            PH

3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s): 
   - 1/21 Sandy, please check if Pratul approved for distribution.  I 
provided updates 1/30.
   - 1/22 Zulah, ditto.  I provided updates 2/4.
   - 1/23 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Feb/att-0007/20080123-sml-minutes.html
   - 2/07 Kumar, still waiting for the updates promised last week to 
include an offline discussion
   - 2/14 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Feb/att-0223/20080214-sml-minutes.html

4. "from the CG"
   - There was no CG call this week.
   - We need to draft an announcement for them once the LC draft is 
published, see requirements
     at 
http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=lc-wd-tr#trans-annc

         This implies some decisions on our part, e.g. review end date 
(proposal: Thu before 3/31 F2F)
 
n-6. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
   http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/

n-5. Review bugs with no keywords or target 

n-4. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs 
targeted for the next draft.
     Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
           "needsReview" (either we have consensus, it's no longer 
needsReview, or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
           "hasProposal" 
           others
     I see 10 LC bugs not yet resolved, no obvious clusters.
 
     See if we have consensus to issue a Last Call draft, as planned.

n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use 
in the next meeting's agenda: 
   Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be out 
for an extended period near the bottom 
   to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top, so 
when the next agenda goes out people 
   will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe 
next. 

Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
2007-08-30        Lipton, Paul              until mid-January 2007
2008-01-03        Kumar, Pandit
2008-01-17        Boucher, Jordan
2008-01-21        Gao, Sandy
2008-01-22        Wilson, Kirk
2008-01-22        Eckert, Zulah
2008-01-23        Smith, Virginia
2008-02-07        Lynn, James 
2008-02-14        Valentina Popescu
Exempt            Arwe, John
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul
Exempt            MSM
Exempt            PH

n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through 
"Generate minutes" 
   http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 
   Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a 
public workgroup.

   DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like Word, 
to do your editing.
   Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits 
unusable even though it
   renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style 
sheets so it renders
   with subtle differences).

n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
   Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an 
editorial check before
   sending to the full list.  Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
 
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list 
   After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within the 
wg to help 
  people search the email archives more effectively, namely: 
    [w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML     in subject of email ([minutes] 
agreed to, rest chair's convention) 
  As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as well.

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n+1. Chair
     After meeting, update good standing list