Re: Captioning Re: Agenda for Silver meeting of Tuesday, 12 May 2020

Hi Michael and all,

Thank you so much for checking in. I thought it was the automated
captioning by using voice recognition technology. I turn the closed caption
on when I use Google Meet or Skype. It really helpful and useful. I thought
Zoom has the same kind of functionality. Now I understood it was not
unfortunately.

Okay. I'm gonna try to use UD Talk which is a free application. It provides
real-time automated caption and automated translation. I use it at
seminars, conferences and webinar I host and it works very well. I've never
used the app for online meetings. But it should work.
https://udtalk.jp/en/

And it might be another discussion whether IRC works well or not for
attendees. IRC chat is helpful, but it looks it put a burden on attendees
who scribe. We need to keep the discussion if needed. Technology may allow
us to have more inclusive meeting and reduce the burden of attendees.

It seems there are some services out there.
https://support.3playmedia.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034239913-Zoom-Schedule-Live-Auto-Captioning-for-a-Zoom-Webinar

https://www.rev.com/blog/rev-live-captions-for-zoom-beta-program
https://otter.ai/starter-guide?article=generateNotes#sync-meeting-recordings


Thanks,
Makoto



2020年5月13日(水) 4:06 lucia greco <lucy@accessaces.com>:

> HELLO: THE TOOL THAT IS NEEDED TO DO THIS IN ZOOM IS  CALLED OTTER AND IT
> CAN BE FOUND AT OTTER.IA I HAVE HERD IT COSTS ABOUT 2 SENSE A MINUTE TO
> USE. FOR THE LIVE CAPTIONS YOU WOULD NEED A  OTTER TEAMS ACCOUNT. I THINK
> THIS OPTION WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THEN THE IRC  THANKS LUCY
> lucia Greco
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>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:51 AM Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Definitely +1, especially as we've had more than one person note
>> difficulty understanding speech on our calls this week alone. Thanks,
>> Michael! And thank you, Makoto, for raising this!
>>
>> -Shawn
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:42 AM Jennifer Chadwick <jcha@siteimprove.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, David.
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>>> +1
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>>> *From:* David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:38 AM
>>> *To:* Dirks, Kim (TR Product) <kimberlee.dirks@thomsonreuters.com>
>>> *Cc:* Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>; Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>;
>>> Makoto Ueki <makoto.ueki@gmail.com>; Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>;
>>> Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Captioning Re: Agenda for Silver meeting of Tuesday, 12
>>> May 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 to Makoto and Kim. It would help for us cognitively impaired Also,
>>> which I am. If we need accessibility reasons I would be one of the
>>> disabilities it would benefit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scribing is sporadic, not very well articulated summaries of speakers
>>> comments. I think it’s not very useful, for captioning purposes. I believe
>>> Janina mentioned a few months ago that zoom has a plugin for auto
>>> captioning.
>>>
>>> This message was Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typographic
>>> errors.
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>>>
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Dirks, Kim (TR Product) <
>>> kimberlee.dirks@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m a big fan of captions and would like to see the W3C explore options
>>> to get them active. Also wondering if we could replace scribing with
>>> captions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:25 AM
>>> *To:* Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>; Makoto Ueki <
>>> makoto.ueki@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>; Jeanne Spellman <
>>> jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
>>> *Subject:* Captioning Re: Agenda for Silver meeting of Tuesday, 12 May
>>> 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Closed captioning is enabled in calls I have set up. It has to be turned
>>> on in a given call by the host (me, unless I find a way to designate
>>> someone else). Once enabled, we can assign someone in the call to enter
>>> captions, or enable a third party service. In the first case I do not know
>>> if participant-entered captions would be more meaningful than the IRC
>>> scribing we already do. For third party services, I do not know if W3C has
>>> contracts with existing services nor what the costs would be. W3C would do
>>> something about that if needed to support accessibility of a given call. I
>>> think the organization would be less likely to take on those costs for
>>> language comprehension support (unless clearly accessibility related),
>>> though if there is sufficient demand it's certainly something to consider.
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On 12/05/2020 9:28 a.m., Shawn Lauriat wrote:
>>>
>>> Makoto,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I definitely support this, though I don't know how to set it up. Jeanne?
>>> Michael?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Shawn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:10 PM Makoto Ueki <makoto.ueki@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Shawn, Jeanne and Michael
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if it is possible to use Zoom's "Closed Captioning" during
>>> our meetings. It will make it easier for those who don't speak English
>>> regularly (like me) to understand and follow discussions in English. And
>>> it'll allow web accessibility experts who are deaf or hard of hearing to
>>> join our group.
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about this for many years. Now we just started using
>>> Zoom which has "Closed Captioning" functionality. Will it be possible??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Makoto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2020年5月12日(火) 0:00 Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>:
>>>
>>> agenda+ Follow-up on action items from virtual face-to-face
>>>
>>> agenda+ Check-in with subgroups
>>> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Ftask-forces%2Fsilver%2Fwiki%2FMain_Page%23Silver_Guideline_Content_.28Active.29&data=02%7C01%7Cjcha%40siteimprove.com%7Cf1d1396310474f14747308d7f68a8b54%7Cad30e5bc301d40dba10a0e8d40abe0f9%7C1%7C0%7C637248947233833126&sdata=GaTKnOQjqxVvBvlSTepP26iLVeHduMMDHZz8HnJlTaU%3D&reserved=0>,
>>> refer to the Guideline Checklist
>>> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1tQHgVFaJYS1WWs9BKucZxWboMNVuclvdNqnQuzPbWwY%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.39jenvb4rhu&data=02%7C01%7Cjcha%40siteimprove.com%7Cf1d1396310474f14747308d7f68a8b54%7Cad30e5bc301d40dba10a0e8d40abe0f9%7C1%7C0%7C637248947233833126&sdata=u%2BfJXeUK30G%2BD3PuZmk1MAl%2BvmzDDUUyBkacUZrOFdU%3D&reserved=0>
>>>
>>> agenda+ Decide on new migration guideline to work on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *New* tuesday call info
>>> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F08%2Ftelecon-info_silver-tue&data=02%7C01%7Cjcha%40siteimprove.com%7Cf1d1396310474f14747308d7f68a8b54%7Cad30e5bc301d40dba10a0e8d40abe0f9%7C1%7C0%7C637248947233843119&sdata=ZYCuAoVl1b2bmVDywk55cCsyuW1DyJuhXpZ8rXDq4d4%3D&reserved=0> -
>>> please note that we've moved to Zoom! We'll monitor IRC for any reports of
>>> issues, and we still have WebEx available as a fallback option if anyone
>>> does have trouble dialing in.
>>>
>>>