Re: First draft minimalist periodical/article proposal

The world is full of whole/part relationships. With this approach, won't Schema.org be overwhelmed by custom partOfFoo properties where the range Foo classname is encoded in the property name?

Jeff

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> On Dec 8, 2013, at 6:13 PM, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Niklas -
> 
> So you are suggesting that we need partOfPeriodical to make this work smoothly? And that would be a new property in Article? If I understand that correctly, we would then have:
> 
> Article
> 
> adds:
> * partOfPeriodical
>   - type: Periodical
> 
> kc
> 
>> On 12/8/13, 1:42 PM, Niklas Lindström wrote:
>> Hi Karen,
>> 
>> Great! I did two variants of the article example, inlined below. In
>> these, the items are linked (using our suggested partOfPeriodical). They
>> also overcome a problem with the current version in the wiki, which
>> describes four separate items (two articles and two periodicals).
>> 
>> The first is in RDFa, and uses @resource to identify the article and
>> periodical:
>> 
>> - - - 8< - - -
>> 
>>   <div vocab="http://schema.org/" typeof="Article">
>>     <strong>Title:</strong><span property="name"> Be Careful What You
>> Wish For: FRBR, Some Lacunae, A Review</span><br />
>>     <strong>Author:</strong> <span property="author">Smiraglia,
>> Richardp.</span><br />
>>     <strong>Subjects:</strong> <span property="subject">Catalog</span>
>> ; <span property="subject">Works</span> <br />
>>     <strong>Is Part Of:</strong>
>>     <div property="partOfPeriodical" typeof="Periodical" resource="#pdl">
>>       <span property="name">Cataloging &amp; Classification
>> Quarterly</span>,
>>       <span property="datePublished">2012</span>,
>>       Vol.<span property="volumeNumber">50</span>(<span
>> property="issueNumber">5</span>),</div><div>
>>     p.<span property="pagination">360-368</span> [Peer Reviewed
>> Journal]<br />
>>     <strong>Description:</strong> <span property="description">The
>> library catalog as a catalog of works was an infectious idea, which
>> together with research led to reconceptualization in the form of the
>> FRBR conceptual model. Two categories of lacunae emerge—the expression
>> entity, and gaps in the model such as aggregates and dynamic documents.
>> Evidence needed to extend the FRBR model is available in contemporary
>> research on instantiation. The challenge for the bibliographic community
>> is to begin to think of FRBR as a form of knowledge organization system,
>> adding a final dimension to classification. The articles in the present
>> special issue offer a compendium of the promise of the FRBR
>> model.</span></div><br />
>>     <div resource="#pdl"><strong>Publisher:</strong>
>>       <span property="publisher">Taylor &amp; Francis Group</span><br />
>>       <strong>Source:</strong> Routledge, Taylor &amp; Francis Group<br />
>>       <strong>ISSN:</strong> <span property="issn">0163-9374</span> ;
>>       <strong>E-ISSN:</strong> <span property="issn">1544-4554</span>
>> ;</div>
>>     <strong>DOI:</strong> <a
>> href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/01639374.2012.682254"
>> property="url">10.1080/01639374.2012.682254</a>
>>   </div>
>> 
>> - - - >8 - - -
>> 
>> Check this out in <http://rdfa.info/play/> to see the data in action.
>> 
>> The other is an attempt to use @itemref in microdata to do the same thing:
>> 
>> - - - 8< - - -
>> 
>>   <div>
>>     <span itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Article"
>> itemref="partof details">
>>       <strong>Title:</strong><span itemprop="name"> Be Careful What You
>> Wish For: FRBR, Some Lacunae, A Review</span><br />
>>       <strong>Author:</strong> <span itemprop="author">Smiraglia,
>> Richardp.</span><br />
>>       <strong>Subjects:</strong> <span
>> itemprop="subject">Catalog</span> ; <span
>> itemprop="subject">Works</span> <br />
>>       <strong>Is Part Of:</strong>
>>     </span>
>>     <div id="partof" itemprop="partOfPeriodical" itemscope
>> itemtype="http://schema.org/Periodical" itemref="publ">
>>       <span itemprop="name">Cataloging &amp; Classification
>> Quarterly</span>,
>>       <span itemprop="datePublished">2012</span>,
>>       Vol.<span itemprop="volumeNumber">50</span>(<span
>> itemprop="issueNumber">5</span>),</div><div id="details">
>>     p.<span itemprop="pagination">360-368</span> [Peer Reviewed
>> Journal]<br />
>>     <strong>Description:</strong> <span itemprop="description">The
>> library catalog as a catalog of works was an infectious idea, which
>> together with research led to reconceptualization in the form of the
>> FRBR conceptual model. Two categories of lacunae emerge—the expression
>> entity, and gaps in the model such as aggregates and dynamic documents.
>> Evidence needed to extend the FRBR model is available in contemporary
>> research on instantiation. The challenge for the bibliographic community
>> is to begin to think of FRBR as a form of knowledge organization system,
>> adding a final dimension to classification. The articles in the present
>> special issue offer a compendium of the promise of the FRBR
>> model.</span></div><br />
>>     <div id="publ"><strong>Publisher:</strong>
>>       <span itemprop="publisher">Taylor &amp; Francis Group</span><br />
>>       <strong>Source:</strong> Routledge, Taylor &amp; Francis Group<br />
>>       <strong>ISSN:</strong> <span itemprop="issn">0163-9374</span> ;
>>       <strong>E-ISSN:</strong> <span itemprop="issn">1544-4554</span>
>> ;</div>
>>     <strong>DOI:</strong> <a
>> href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/01639374.2012.682254"
>> itemprop="url">10.1080/01639374.2012.682254</a>
>>   </div>
>> 
>> - - - >8 - - -
>> 
>> This one became a bit more cumbersome, since @itemref is more tricky to
>> use when markup is interweaved like this.
>> 
>> (Granted, I am more acquainted with RDFa (unsurprisingly, being a member
>> of the RDFa 1.1 WG). And I readily admit to favor the @resource
>> mechanism in RDFa over @itemref in microdata. So I may have overlooked
>> some trick to make it work better. There is also @itemid, which in
>> theory is analogous to @resource. But I'm not sure whether it is good
>> practice, or even valid, to use it repeatedly in the same manner.)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Niklas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
>> <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    All,
>> 
>>    Since there was interest I went ahead and did a first draft of a
>>    minimalist proposal. I believe I have designed it such that, given
>>    the flat nature of schema.org <http://schema.org>, it does not
>>    preclude the more complete proposal offered by Dan.
>> 
>>    http://www.w3.org/community/__schemabibex/wiki/Periodical___Article_minimal
>>    <http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Periodical_Article_minimal>
>> 
>>    I did the examples there, and what with my limited coding skills,
>>    you should expect to find (and feel free to fix) errors. Hopefully
>>    the examples actually exemplify the proposal. At least, that was my
>>    intention. I'll do more validation and testing of them if I find time.
>> 
>>    All suggestions, comments, corrections welcome.
>> 
>>    kc
>>    --
>>    Karen Coyle
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>> 
>> 
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