Re: schema-course-extend: credential or award offered through course.

On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hello all, one last call for feedback on this (sorry I left it hanging
> earlier in the summer, if you really have the time you can review the
> discussion at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-schema-course-ex
> tend/2016Jun/0019.html )
>
> In short I propose:
>
> 1. that we provide a property of course which can be used to point to an
> educational credential that may be available to those who complete a course.


+1


>
> 2. that the expected type for this property be Text or Thing until such
> time as a specific model for educational credentials be created


-1 (see above)


>
> 3.  that we do not attempt to model educational credentials as part of
> this work.


It's already modeled,  ...


>
> It is on point 3 that I would most welcome feedback.
>
> See http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/educationalCr
> edentialAwarded for details
>
> Brief Rational: the ability to provide a name and a URI for and
> educational credential which may be obtained by successful completion of
> the course is enough fulfil the use case requirement of being able to find
> courses that offer some specific requirement; modelling educational
> credentials would divert us from completing what is necessary to fulfil the
> other use cases; and, educational credentials touch on many communities
> that are not well represented in this group.


I seem to have been highly distracted
Angry without work

This is not at all controversial:

  Thing > CreativeWork > Credential

We could, instead, choose not to define CredentialInstance at this time
(because the relation between {Person,Organization} and {Credential >
{...}} is out of scope for this go-round?


>
> Comments / feedback / dissent?
>
> Phil
>
>
> On 22/06/2016 11:20, Phil Barker wrote:
>
>>
>> I have drafted a description and a couple of examples based on the
>> proposal below.
>>
>> See wiki
>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Ident
>> ifying_the_qualification_offered
>>
>> and test course.schema site
>>   http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/Course
>> http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/educationalCr
>> edentialAwarded
>>
>> Any further comments/amendments?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On 20/06/16 14:05, Phil Barker wrote:
>>
>>> OK. As property name I am going to suggest educationalCredentialAwarded
>>> because we might in the future want EducationalCredential as a class name.
>>>
>>> So, my proposal is that in order to meet the use case that people can
>>> search for courses that offers a qualification the searcher would like to
>>> acquire we create a new property
>>>
>>> educationalCredentialAwarded domain Course, range Text or Thing.
>>> Definition: a description of the qualification, award, certificate,
>>> diploma or other educational credential awarded as a consequence of
>>> successful completion of this course.
>>>
>>> When the educational credentials/verifiable claims community have sorted
>>> out how they want to describe their domain in schema.org then I hope we
>>> will have some more specific schema type(s) that we can point to, but for
>>> now this seems to me to be good enough to solve the use case. Solving the
>>> bigger issue seems beyond the scope of this community group.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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