- From: Michael Kifer <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:17:30 -0400
- To: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@deri.org>
- Cc: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, "Public-Rif-Wg (E-mail)" <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
>
> Sandro Hawke wrote:
> >> As I said, your proposal had a couple of holes, which Jos was trying to
> >> fix. Most of all, I do not like the fact that you are proposing that ":"
> >> would macro-expand differently depending on where it appears (after the ^^
> >> or elsewhere). My second proposal (<prefix:suffix>) was to fix that.
>
> If this (leaving out the < > and only allowing CURIEs as a shortcut for
> ridf:iris and symbol spaces) is acceptable for a majority, I would be
> happy with it, I also like the proposed PREFIX definition syntax.
Leaving < > out makes it into what I call an "ugly hack", as explained in
several messages. <...> is an abbreviation for ^^rif:iri, and it makes the
meaning simple and clear.
I myself do not like the particular choice of <...> as delimiters, but this
is a secondary issue.
cheers
--michael
> Axel
>
> > The problem with using "<" and ">" like this:
> >
> > In practice, URIs are delimited in a variety of ways, but usually
> > within double-quotes "http://example.com/", angle brackets
> > <http://example.com/>, or just by using whitespace:
> >
> > http://example.com/
> >
> > These wrappers do not form part of the URI.
> >
> > (from RFC 3986 [1]), and the various Semantic Web specs all use <...> in
> > this way, to delimit URIs. I think a good middle ground is something
> > like:
> >
> > 1. A "prefix" declaration syntax, as in Turtle:
> >
> > @prefix ns: <http://example.org/ns#> .
> >
> > or SPARQL:
> >
> > PREFIX ns: <http://example.org/ns#>
> >
> > or, maybe best, something more RIF-PS like:
> >
> > PREFIX("ns", "http://example.org/ns#").
> >
> > 2. The CURIE a:b syntax is the only syntax that can be used after
> > the "^^" operator. Eg:
> >
> > PREFIX("xs", "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema").
> > PREFIX("rif", "http://www.w3.org/2007/rif#").
> >
> > ... "10"^^xsd:integer ...
> > ... "http://purl.org/dc/terms/creator"^^rif:iri
> >
> > 3. The CURIE a:b syntax MAY also be used as a shortcut for rif:iri
> > terms, so givent his PREFIX declatation:
> >
> > PREFIX("dc", "http://purl.org/dc/terms/").
> >
> > the last term in #2 above could also be written as:
> >
> > ... dc:creator
> >
> > I think that's all we really need to make IRI handling in the
> > presentation syntax relatively comfortable and precise, no?
> >
> > -- Sandro
> >
> > (Note that it seems BLD has the wrong namespace for Dublin Core. It
> > should be either "http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" or
> > "http://purl.org/dc/terms/", with the latter being in some sense
> > preferred. [2].)
> >
> > [1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
> > [2] http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/
>
>
> --
> Dr. Axel Polleres, Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
> email: axel.polleres@deri.org url: http://www.polleres.net/
>
> rdfs:Resource owl:differentFrom xsd:anyURI .
>
>
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