- From: Olaf Hartig <olaf.hartig@liu.se>
- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 15:51:43 +0000
- To: "public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org" <public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org>
Hi Thomas,
On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 17:16 +0200, Thomas Lörtsch wrote:
> Since reifiers can refer to multiple triple terms, do queries for annotations on a triple need to filter out eventual
> multi-triple term annotations? Take for example the following graph.:
>
> :r rdf:reifies <<( :s :p :o )>> ,
> <<( :x :y :z )>> ;
> :b :c .
>
> Querying for all annotations on <<( :s :p :o )>> might naively query for all annotations on reifiers that rdf:reify
> <<( :s :p :o )>>, e.g.:
>
>
> select ?pred ?obj where {
> _:x rdf:reifies <<( :s :p :o )>> ;
> ?pred ?obj
> }
>
> However, in the above example that would return the annotation ':r :a :b',
Assuming you meant ':r :b :c', then yes, one of the solution mappings in the result of this query over the graph given
above, is { ?pred -> :b, ?obj -> :c }.
In addition to this one, there are two more solution mappings in the result:
{ ?pred -> rdf:reifies, ?obj -> <<( :s :p :o )>> }
and
{ ?pred -> rdf:reifies, ?obj -> <<( :x :y :z )>> }
That's exactly what the query asks for. If you want to retrieve data about a reifier that reifies only <<( :s :p :o )>>
and nothing else---at least not within the graph that you are querying---then you need to specify that as an additional
condition in your query.
Notice also that this is not specific to reifiers at all! As an example, consider the graph
:s :p 1 .
:s :p 2 .
:s :q :y .
and the query
SELECT ?v WHERE {
_:b :p 1 .
_:b :q ?v
}
Also here, you get a solution mapping { ?v -> :y }.
-Olaf
> but ':r' doesn’t just reify <<( :s :p :o )>>, it reifies <<( :s :p :o )>> AND <<( :x :y :z )>>. I at least consider
> that a difference (but I’m not quite sure if the specs do too).
>
> OTOH, filtering out multi-triple term reifiers like ':r' from a result set is pretty tedious, especially if it would
> have to be done on a regular basis.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
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