- From: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:20:20 -0700
- To: Filip Kolarik <filip26@gmail.com>
- Cc: RDF-star WG <public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org>, JSON-LD Working Group <public-json-ld-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <833E1FF9-FEB7-44AF-A53D-DA5F17E976A3@greggkellogg.net>
> On Sep 16, 2024, at 2:12 PM, Filip Kolarik <filip26@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks. Making the @annotation.id <http://annotation.id/> optional would help with adoption, I guess it can be generated. Yes, as with Turtle, using an explicit annotation identifier (reifier) is optional. Just like with other node objects, if there is no `@id`, a fresh blank node is allocated to serve as the identifier. Same thing happens in Turtle. > Details to be considered: > > * what if an @annotation is used on a graph object? > > The answer could depend on @graph/dataset interpretation (not necessarily equal to RDF dataset definition). If the dataset is something substantial then adding annotation to the @graph could be interpreted the same way as adding it to a node. If not, then adding annotation looks like metadata of metadata. Similar to if the annotated object has recursive elements; this isn’t supported in Turtle, and it may lead to odd results in JSON-LD. In the case of a graph object, if @annotation and @graph appear in the same object, what would be annotated is the relationship between the subject and the graph identifier; there are no semantics that would indicate that this annotates the graph, itself. Opening this up could be a can of worms, given that JSON-LD commonly uses graph names as references to that graph while RDF just has a name/graph pair and use of that name outside does not necessarily refer to that graph. > What about @annotation inside @annotation, does it make sense? Yes, also possible in Turtle, but that’s a fairly narrow use case. Gregg > On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 10:53 PM Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net> wrote: >>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Filip Kolarik <filip26@gmail.com <mailto:filip26@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Gregg, >>> thank you for the examples. I like the compactness of @graph annotations and I wonder how to annotate a record, i.e. a group of statements represented as a JSON object. >>> >>> Would something like this be possible? >>> >>> { >>> @context: ... >>> @id: ... >>> firstName: .. >>> lastName: .. >>> @annotation: { >>> created: >>> source: >>> } >>> } >>> >>> This should result in a list of statements (created, source,) about statements (@id firstName, .., @id <> lastName ...,). >> >> This is the most likely way that annotations would be implemented in JSON-LD-star, but the details need to be worked out. RDF 1.2 Turtle only allows annotations of a single triple, as the annotation pattern ( `{| … |}` can appear after an object production. JSON-LD doesn’t have such constraints, but this could be controversial. >> >> If @annotation is used in a node object having multiple properties, then the most natural interpretations is that the triples associated with that node would each be reified using a common reifier, and that reifier would be used to annotate each triple. Given something like you suggested, it might be treated as the following: >> >> { >> “@context”: …, >> “@id”: “id”, >> “firstName”: “Fred”, >> “lastName”: “Flintstone, >> “@annotation”: { >> “@id”: “reifier”, >> “created”: “1960-09-30”, >> “source: “HannaBarbara” >> } >> } >> >> This corresponds to the following Turtle. >> >> :id :firstName “Fred” ~ :reifier {| :created “1960-09-30”; :source :HannaBarbara |}; >> :lastName “Flintstone” ~ :reifier . >> >> Details to be considered: >> >> * what if an @annotation is used on a graph object? >> >> Gregg >> >>> Best, >>> Filip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 2:47 AM Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net <mailto:gregg@greggkellogg.net>> wrote: >>>> A follow on to this, with some hypothetical multi-statement reifiers acting like graphs. Consider JSON-LD Example 115 [1] about making statements about a graph. >>>> >>>> { >>>> "@context": { >>>> "generatedAt": { >>>> "@id": "http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#generatedAtTime", >>>> "@type": "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime" >>>> }, >>>> "Person": "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person", >>>> "name": "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name", >>>> "knows": {"@id": "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows", "@type": "@id"} >>>> }, >>>> "@id": "http://example.org/foaf-graph", >>>> "generatedAt": "2012-04-09T00:00:00", >>>> "@graph": [ >>>> { >>>> "@id": "http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu", >>>> "@type": "Person", >>>> "name": "Manu Sporny", >>>> "knows": "https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me" >>>> }, { >>>> "@id": "https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me", >>>> "@type": "Person", >>>> "name": "Gregg Kellogg", >>>> "knows": "http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu" >>>> } >>>> ] >>>> } >>>> This results in the following TriG: >>>> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> . >>>> @prefix prov: <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#> . >>>> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> . >>>> @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> . >>>> >>>> <http://example.org/foaf-graph> prov:generatedAtTime "2012-04-09T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime . >>>> >>>> <http://example.org/foaf-graph> { >>>> <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> a foaf:Person; >>>> foaf:name "Manu Sporny"; >>>> foaf:knows <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> . >>>> >>>> <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> a foaf:Person; >>>> foaf:name "Gregg Kellogg"; >>>> foaf:knows <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> . >>>> } >>>> If you were to use @reifier instead of @graph, you’d get something like the following Turtle: >>>> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> . >>>> @prefix prov: <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#> . >>>> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> . >>>> @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> . >>>> >>>> <http://example.org/foaf-graph> prov:generatedAtTime "2012-04-09T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime; >>>> rdf:reifies <<( <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> a foaf:Person )>>, >>>> <<( <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> foaf:name “Manu Sporny” )>>, >>>> <<( <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> foaf:knows <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> )>>, >>>> <<( <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> a foaf:Person )>>, >>>> <<( <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> foaf:name “Gregg Kellogg” )>>, >>>> <<( <https://greggkellogg.net/foaf#me> foaf:knows <http://manu.sporny.org/about#manu> )>> . >>>> Gregg Kellogg >>>> gregg@greggkellogg.net <mailto:gregg@greggkellogg.net> >>>> >>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld11/ >>>> >>>>> On Sep 14, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net <mailto:gregg@greggkellogg.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The JSON-LD CG (specifically, Pierre-Antoine, Niklas and myself) started a draft on JSON-LD-star [1] in 2020. Since then, the target has changed, so we’ve created an issue to consider how this might adapt to Triple Terms, Reifying Triples, and Annotations [2]. >>>>> >>>>> Basically, the idea is to add three new keywords to JSON-LD, @reifies, @triple, and @annotation. JSON-LD encodes RDF iin JSON using Node Objects, which can represent a subject/identifier, @type and properties based on key/value entries in a map. This proposal uses @reifies, @triple, and @annotation as special properties to encode triple terms. >>>>> >>>>> At the most fundamental level, @triple is intended to encode a single triple with an @id and a single-valued property. >>>>> >>>>> { >>>>> "@context": { >>>>> "@base": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "@vocab": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "rdf": "http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#", >>>>> }, >>>>> "rdf:reifies": { >>>>> "@triple": { >>>>> "@id": "bob", >>>>> "age": 42 >>>>> } >>>>> }, >>>>> "certainty": 0.8 >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> This would be equivalent to the following Turtle: >>>>> >>>>> BASE <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX : <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#”> >>>>> >>>>> [ rdf:reifies <<( :bob :age 42 ))> ]; :certainty: 0.8 . >>>>> >>>>> In this case, since there is no explicit @id at the top level, a blank node is generated, which is used as the reifier. >>>>> >>>>> The @reifies keyword can be used to compact this, and holds the potentially for reifying more than one triple: >>>>> >>>>> { >>>>> "@context": { >>>>> "@base": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "@vocab": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "rdf": "http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#", >>>>> }, >>>>> “@id”: “reifier”, >>>>> "@reifies": { >>>>> "@id": "bob", >>>>> "age": 42 >>>>> }, >>>>> "certainty": 0.8 >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> The example shows a single triple, but in principle, @reifies could take an array of objects, each with a different @id, and each object may have one or more properties; each of these could turn into a separate triple term referenced by the same reifier. This perticular example uses an expicit reifier, so the resulting Turtle would be: >>>>> >>>>> BASE <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX : <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#”> >>>>> >>>>> :reifier rdf:reifies <<( :bob :age 42 ))>; :certainty: 0.8 . >>>>> >>>>> It’s an open question if downstream relationships would also be reified; they’re not in Turtle. >>>>> >>>>> The annotation syntax is similar to Turtle: >>>>> >>>>> { >>>>> "@context": { >>>>> "@base": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "@vocab": "http://example.org/" >>>>> }, >>>>> "@id": "bob", >>>>> "age": { >>>>> "@value": 42, >>>>> "@annotation": { >>>>> "@id": "_:anno", >>>>> "certainty": 0.8 >>>>> } >>>>> } >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> In this case, the annotation may have it’s own reifier assigned (here ’s _:anno), or one can be assigned automatically. This would be equivalent to the following Turtle: >>>>> >>>>> :bob :age 42 ~ _:anno {| :certainty 8.0E-1 |} . >>>>> >>>>> Note that in the Reification example, the @refiies keyword acts much like @graph. If it were restated as follows, it would use the named graph syntax, which is common in Verifiable Claims. >>>>> >>>>> { >>>>> "@context": { >>>>> "@base": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "@vocab": "http://example.org/", >>>>> "rdf": "http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" >>>>> }, >>>>> "@id": "reifier", >>>>> "@graph": { >>>>> "@id": "bob", >>>>> "age": 42 >>>>> }, >>>>> "certainty": 0.8 >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> This results in the following TriG. >>>>> >>>>> BASE <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX : <http://example.org/> >>>>> PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#”> >>>>> PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> . >>>>> >>>>> :reifier :certainty 8.0E-1 . >>>>> >>>>> :reifier { >>>>> :bob :age 42 . >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> This suggests that there may be a way to describe named graphs using reification. >>>>> >>>>> Gregg Kellogg >>>>> gregg@greggkellogg.net <mailto:gregg@greggkellogg.net> >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://json-ld.github.io/json-ld-star/ >>>>> [2] https://github.com/json-ld/json-ld-star/issues/49 >>>> >>
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