Re: Weak vs Full RDF 1.2 conformance

Yes, I'm aware that the joke is sad, if not even a bit sarcastic. But an actual standard will require that the spec reflects real world usage and doesn't require a re-education of everybody outside the N3 community. And a cavalier's approach to semantics can only fly if it covers the vast majority of use cases soundly out of the box. Otherwise it is unreliable, and therefore worthless, in practice. 

Thomas


Am 16. Februar 2023 14:54:11 MEZ schrieb "Lassila, Ora" <ora@amazon.com>:
>Funny, but no. We are aiming at an actual standard, so calling anything “experimental” will not fly.
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>Ora
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>From: Thomas Lörtsch <tl@rat.io>
>Date: Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 8:45 AM
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>"experimental".
>Am 16. Februar 2023 14:35:10 MEZ schrieb "Lassila, Ora" <ora@amazon.com>:
>I like that term (“classic”), but what would replace “strong”?
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>Ora
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>From: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
>Date: Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 8:29 AM
>To: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
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>Is there a way to call it "classic" rather than "weak"?
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>On Thu, 16 Feb 2023, 13:16 Antoine Zimmermann, <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr<mailto:antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>> wrote:
>I added a comment to the Github issue on proposing 2 types of
>conformance. Please check this if you are interested by the topic:
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>https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/19#issuecomment-1433072504
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>I propose 2 options that we can discuss today.
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