- From: Miles, Simon <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:50:06 +0100
- To: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
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Hi Luc, I think we must be talking at cross-purposes or I've misunderstood something. The reviewer comments in ISSUE-521, linked below, don't mention "wasAdoptedBy". The second paragraph is the question I don't think is explicitly answered. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0111.html thanks, Simon Dr Simon Miles Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK +44 (0)20 7848 1166 Transparent Provenance Derivation for User Decisions: http://eprints.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/1400/ ________________________________ From: Luc Moreau [l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk] Sent: 11 October 2012 15:39 To: public-prov-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday 10/10) Hi Simon, The author of 503 explicitly mentions a relation "wasAdoptedBy" that is missing from the spec. We argue that it is not missing. I don't understand what you are suggesting. Luc On 10/11/2012 03:22 PM, Miles, Simon wrote: Hi Luc, That's fine for ISSUE-522, but I still don't think ISSUE-521/503 answers the question raised. The PROV-DM says: "Agents may adopt plans, i.e. sets of actions or steps, to achieve their goals in the context of an activity." The reviewer asked: "can activities adopt a plan when acting as an agent, or can only entity agents adopt plans?" As far as I'm aware from the DM, the answer is "yes, agents that are activities can adopt plans". I suggest we should say this explicitly in the response. ISSUE-503 seems to answer an unrelated question, about a proposed wasAdoptedBy relation. thanks, Simon Dr Simon Miles Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK +44 (0)20 7848 1166 Transparent Provenance Derivation for User Decisions: http://eprints.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/1400/ ________________________________ From: Luc Moreau [l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>] Sent: 11 October 2012 13:27 To: public-prov-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-prov-wg@w3.org> Subject: Re: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday 10/10) On 10/09/2012 04:12 PM, Miles, Simon wrote: Hello Luc, Responses to responses... .... ISSUE-521: I was not clear how this or ISSUE-503 answer the question "can activities adopt a plan?" I assume the answer is "yes", in that any wasAssociatedWith relation can include a plan. Could we add an explicit answer to this question? Response to ISSUE-503 indicated: Hence, there is no need for a separate wasAdoptedBy relation. ISSUE-522: Similarly to above, I could not see an answer to whether activities could delegate. I assume the answer is "yes", and that the confusion of the reviewer comes from the fact (previously discussed in telecon) that "delegation" is not a perfect word to express what we mean, as it has the connotation of authority, which entities can have but activities don't obviously have. I have updated the text in 521 as follows: Given this, it is legal to write the following, in which a2 acted on behalf of a1, where a2 and a1 are activities, but the type of a2 and a1 can also be inferred to be agent. .... Luc thanks, Simon Dr Simon Miles Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK +44 (0)20 7848 1166 Transparent Provenance Derivation for User Decisions: http://eprints.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/1400/ ________________________________________ From: Luc Moreau [l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>] Sent: 08 October 2012 15:06 To: public-prov-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-prov-wg@w3.org> Subject: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday 10/10) Dear all, At http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#PROV-DM_.28Under_Review.29, please find our proposed responses to public comments: - ISSUE-530 - ISSUE-520 - ISSUE-521 - ISSUE-522 - ISSUE-509 - ISSUE-526 - ISSUE-502 They will become the group responses unless we hear objects by Wednesday 10/10. Best regards, Luc PS. To help tracker, please include only the relevant issue number when responding. -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm<http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm> -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm<http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm> -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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