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RE: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday 10/10)

From: Miles, Simon <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:22:53 +0100
To: Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
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Hi Luc,

That's fine for ISSUE-522, but I still don't think ISSUE-521/503 answers the question raised.

The PROV-DM says:
"Agents may adopt plans, i.e. sets of actions or steps, to achieve their goals in the context of an activity."

The reviewer asked:
"can activities adopt a plan when acting as an agent, or can only entity agents adopt plans?"

As far as I'm aware from the DM, the answer is "yes, agents that are activities can adopt plans". I suggest we should say this explicitly in the response. ISSUE-503 seems to answer an unrelated question, about a proposed wasAdoptedBy relation.

thanks,
Simon

Dr Simon Miles
Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics
Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
+44 (0)20 7848 1166

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From: Luc Moreau [l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
Sent: 11 October 2012 13:27
To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday 10/10)


On 10/09/2012 04:12 PM, Miles, Simon wrote:

Hello Luc,

Responses to responses...

....

ISSUE-521:
I was not clear how this or ISSUE-503 answer the question "can activities adopt a plan?" I assume the answer is "yes", in that any wasAssociatedWith relation can include a plan. Could we add an explicit answer to this question?

Response to ISSUE-503 indicated:
Hence, there is no need for a separate wasAdoptedBy relation.


ISSUE-522:
Similarly to above, I could not see an answer to whether activities could delegate. I assume the answer is "yes", and that the confusion of the reviewer comes from the fact (previously discussed in telecon) that "delegation" is not a perfect word to express what we mean, as it has the connotation of authority, which entities can have but activities don't obviously have.

I have updated the text in 521 as follows:

Given this, it is legal to write the following, in which a2 acted on behalf of a1, where a2 and a1 are activities, but the type of a2 and a1 can also be inferred to be agent.



....

Luc


thanks,
Simon

Dr Simon Miles
Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics
Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
+44 (0)20 7848 1166

Transparent Provenance Derivation for User Decisions:
http://eprints.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/1400/
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From: Luc Moreau [l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>]
Sent: 08 October 2012 15:06
To: public-prov-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Subject: proposed responses to public comments (deadline: Wednesday  10/10)

Dear all,

At
http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#PROV-DM_.28Under_Review.29,
please find our proposed responses to public comments:
- ISSUE-530
- ISSUE-520
- ISSUE-521
- ISSUE-522
- ISSUE-509
- ISSUE-526
- ISSUE-502

They will become the group responses unless we hear objects by Wednesday
10/10.


Best regards,
Luc

PS. To help tracker, please include only the relevant issue number when
responding.

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Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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