- From: Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:12:30 +0100
- To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Cc: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAANah+Gt8TfQP6YxvT2eU4vReY84ergS87OnyJcQ=brnZW=C2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Tim, On 4 July 2012 22:12, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: > Stian, > > Would renaming "Delegation" to "Altruism" satisfy this directionality > concern? > > WG, > > (straw poll) Would anyone support renaming Delegation to Altruism? > > "behavior of an agent that benefits another at its own expense." > I am not a native speaker, but I have the impression that Altruism suggets a strong "welfare of others", which is not necessary true in our case. In your example below, :tim may have had to do the job because :stian is :tim's boss, not because :tim cares about :stian :-) khalid > > e.g. > > :tim > a prov:Agent; > prov:actedOnBehalfOf :stian; > prov:qualifiedAltruism [ # renamed from qualifiedDelegation > a prov:Altruism; # renamed from Delegation > prov:agent :stian; > :inspired_by <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/406>; > ]; > . > > > Thanks, > Tim > > > > On Jul 2, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Timothy Lebo wrote: > > > Unfortunately, due to time and lack of momentum,and no clear solution, > we agreed to postpone this issue during the prov-o call. > > > > Regards, > > Tim > > > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker > wrote: > > > >> PROV-ISSUE-406 (delegation-direction): Direction of prov:Delegation is > non-intuitive [Ontology] > >> > >> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/406 > >> > >> Raised by: Stian Soiland-Reyes > >> On product: Ontology > >> > >> After the rename from prov:Responsibility to prov:Delegation, I believe > the PROV-O mapping of actedOnBehalfOf is non-intuitive with regards to the > direction. > >> > >> > >> Consider the graph in > >> > >> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Eg-37-delegation-direction > >> > >> showing only the qualified relationship. If you read this intuitively, > as someone who will find the RDF in the wild - it easily reads the wrong > way. > >> > >> > >> I've discussed some potential solutions on that wiki page: > >> > >> > >> * Make <code>prov:hadDelegate</code> be the unqualified property and > change the direction of <code>prov:Delegation</code> > >> ** Should then be pretty obvious; would not have > <code>prov:Agent</code> problem > >> ** ..but wrong direction/term according to DM.. > >> *** DM to change actedOnBehalfOf(responsible, delegate) to > hadDelegate(delegate, responsible)? > >> * Use more specific properties like <code>prov:responsible</code> > rather than confusing <code>prov:agent<code> > >> ** but.. harder to identify the 'special' outgoing link of qualification > >> * Rename <code>prov:Delegation</code> and > <code>prov:qualifiedDelegation</code> > >> ** prov:Delegate ? > >> ** prov:ActedOnBehalfOf ? > >> ** .. ? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Stian Soiland-Reyes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
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