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Re: PROV-ISSUE-164 (TLebo): pre-determined versus determined [Accessing and Querying Provenance]

From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:01:26 +0000
Message-ID: <4ECD5F26.4050908@ninebynine.org>
To: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
CC: Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org>
I take your point about pre-determined.  "Determined" sounds a bit to me like a 
willful agent.

How about "completed".  I think this suggests past activities without completely 
excluding fictional accounts of future activities.

#g
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On 23/11/2011 15:29, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
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> PROV-ISSUE-164 (TLebo): pre-determined versus determined [Accessing and Querying Provenance]
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/164
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> Raised by: Timothy Lebo
> On product: Accessing and Querying Provenance
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> In http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/paq/provenance-access.html :
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> "Provenance assertions are about pre-determined activities involving entities; as such, they are not dynamic."
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> Is there something special about pre-determined that would be different from "determined"?
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> Could "pre-" be safely removed without losing meaning? It's not that we knew what was going to happen -- only that they already have happened, no?
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> Thanks,
> Tim
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