- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:04:39 +0000
- To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- CC: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Paul, While that can be done, it may cause headaches for the OWL ontology, ifone tries to stay within OWL DL. I'm ambivalent about the importance of this. #g -- On 06/11/2011 15:48, Paul Groth wrote: > Hi Jim > > I think to address Tim's issue we should just allow qualifiers to be Literal= > s or Identifiers as defined by prov-dm.=20 > > Then one can use uris for roles without breaking compatibility with prov-DM > > Was that your suggestion ?=20 > > Cheers > Paul > > On Nov 6, 2011, at 16:19, Jim McCusker<mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote: > >> Make Roles resources like Entities. Classes of Roles (Creator, >> Publisher, PrincipleInvestigator) are instantiated for each Entity. Of >> course, this is rather similar to what's been rejected (?), but is >> still the best choice, IMO. This would be, for instance, "Barack >> Obama's role as president", as opposed to "the role of president", >> which would be a class. >> >> Role could also be an extension of skos:Concept and allow you to >> express "the role of president" directly without custom instantiation. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Luc Moreau<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>> Ok, so, what's alternative suggestion ? >>> >>> Professor Luc Moreau >>> Electronics and Computer Science >>> University of Southampton >>> Southampton SO17 1BJ >>> United Kingdom >>> >>> >>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 12:59, "Jim McCusker"<mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> This is a misunderstanding of a URI literal versus URI resource. When >>>> a URI resource is used, it can link to that resource when it has >>>> assertions made about it. This is not possible or intended with URI >>>> literals. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Luc Moreau<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> But doesn't this include URIs by means of typed literals? >>>>> >>>>> Professor Luc Moreau >>>>> Electronics and Computer Science >>>>> University of Southampton >>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ >>>>> United Kingdom >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 01:20, "Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker"<sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-142 (Tlebo): Can roles only be Literals? [Data Model] >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/142 >>>>>> >>>>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo >>>>>> On product: Data Model >>>>>> >>>>>> prov-dm, 5.5.1 Qualifier: >>>>>> >>>>>> "The value associated with a role attribute must be conformant with Literal." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Will this prevent PROV-O from using URIs to cite roles? >>>>>> >>>>>> Restricting roles to literals will be severely limiting for PROV-O and semantic web applications, since literals cannot be described or served as linked data, and thus consumers will be unable to determine more information about what the role means. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jim McCusker >>>> Programmer Analyst >>>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >>>> Yale School of Medicine >>>> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 >>>> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >>>> >>>> PhD Student >>>> Tetherless World Constellation >>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >>>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu >>>> http://tw.rpi.edu >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim McCusker >> Programmer Analyst >> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >> Yale School of Medicine >> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 >> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >> >> PhD Student >> Tetherless World Constellation >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu >> http://tw.rpi.edu >> > >
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