Re: PROV-ISSUE-142 (Tlebo): Can roles only be Literals? [Data Model]

Hi Jim

I think to address Tim's issue we should just allow qualifiers to be Literal=
s or Identifiers as defined by prov-dm.=20

Then one can use uris for roles without breaking compatibility with prov-DM

Was that your suggestion ?=20

Cheers
Paul

On Nov 6, 2011, at 16:19, Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote:

> Make Roles resources like Entities. Classes of Roles (Creator,
> Publisher, PrincipleInvestigator) are instantiated for each Entity. Of
> course, this is rather similar to what's been rejected (?), but is
> still the best choice, IMO. This would be, for instance, "Barack
> Obama's role as president", as opposed to "the role of president",
> which would be a class.
> 
> Role could also be an extension of skos:Concept and allow you to
> express "the role of president" directly without custom instantiation.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Ok, so, what's alternative suggestion ?
>> 
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science
>> University of Southampton
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ
>> United Kingdom
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 12:59, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a misunderstanding of a URI literal versus URI resource. When
>>> a URI resource is used, it can link to that resource when it has
>>> assertions made about it. This is not possible or intended with URI
>>> literals.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> But doesn't this include URIs by means of typed literals?
>>>> 
>>>> Professor Luc Moreau
>>>> Electronics and Computer Science
>>>> University of Southampton
>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 01:20, "Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker" <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-142 (Tlebo): Can roles only be Literals? [Data Model]
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/142
>>>>> 
>>>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo
>>>>> On product: Data Model
>>>>> 
>>>>> prov-dm, 5.5.1 Qualifier:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The value associated with a role attribute must be conformant with Literal."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Will this prevent PROV-O from using URIs to cite roles?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Restricting roles to literals will be severely limiting for PROV-O and semantic web applications, since literals cannot be described or served as linked data, and thus consumers will be unable to determine more information about what the role means.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jim McCusker
>>> Programmer Analyst
>>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
>>> Yale School of Medicine
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>>> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu
>>> 
>>> PhD Student
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>>> http://tw.rpi.edu
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim McCusker
> Programmer Analyst
> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
> Yale School of Medicine
> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330
> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu
> 
> PhD Student
> Tetherless World Constellation
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu
> http://tw.rpi.edu
> 

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