- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:44:47 +0000
- To: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
- CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
You are mixing concrete syntax and abstract syntax. All typed literals in prov-dm have a string and a datatype iri. It also applies to int, float, etc for which there is no syntactic sugar either in the ASN. Why should we make a distinction for resources? Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science University of Southampton Southampton SO17 1BJ United Kingdom On 8 Nov 2011, at 06:40, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote: > If you're going to directly reference RDF Resource, just use the > accepted syntax for it (like you did with the other literals), which > is what I used. > > Jim > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >> It seems that you want to write >> "http://example.org/foo"^^rdf:resource >> or similar. >> >> >> Professor Luc Moreau >> Electronics and Computer Science >> University of Southampton >> Southampton SO17 1BJ >> United Kingdom >> >> On 8 Nov 2011, at 00:27, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>> wrote: >> >> These are syntactically RDF literals: >> >> "abc" >> "abc"@en >> "abc"^^xsd:string >> "1"^^xsd:int >> "http://example.org/foo"^^xsd:anyURI >> >> Maybe they're also PROV-DM literals, but then you should support the >> following URI "literals": >> >> <http://example.org> >> >> Jim >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote: >> No Jim, they are prov-dm literals, "leaves" as you said. >> I thought you would map a prov-dm URi literal into an rdf resource. >> >> Professor Luc Moreau >> Electronics and Computer Science >> University of Southampton >> Southampton SO17 1BJ >> United Kingdom >> >> On 7 Nov 2011, at 23:35, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>> wrote: >> >> The examples are all RDF literals. I thought that we weren't using any >> RDF in the DM... >> >> Jim >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote: >> Hi Tim, Stephan, Jim, >> >> Here is a first draft of the literal section. >> >> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#record-literal >> >> It would be good to have your feedback. >> If you find it's ok, than the literals examples in the document need to be >> checked. >> >> Cheers, >> Luc >> >> On 07/11/11 18:15, Jim McCusker wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Paolo Missier<Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk>> >> wrote: >> >> >> DM says: >> >> 5.5.5 Literal >> >> Literals represent data values such as particular string or integers. >> >> My understanding is it's always been used in the standard grammar >> production >> meaning (eg: http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-2003-2.bnf.html#literal). Not >> so? >> >> >> I think a clearer definition would be: >> >> A Provenance Literal is a "leaf" value. It does not explicitly have >> any outgoing relations (in SW-ish: Is not a subject of any statement) >> in the PROV data model. Any outgoing relations from a Provenance >> Literal is out of scope for the PROV DM. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim McCusker >> Programmer Analyst >> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >> Yale School of Medicine >> james.mccusker@yale.edu<mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu> | (203) 785-6330 >> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >> >> PhD Student >> Tetherless World Constellation >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu> >> http://tw.rpi.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim McCusker >> Programmer Analyst >> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >> Yale School of Medicine >> james.mccusker@yale.edu<mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu> | (203) 785-6330 >> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >> >> PhD Student >> Tetherless World Constellation >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu> >> http://tw.rpi.edu >> >> >> > > > > -- > Jim McCusker > Programmer Analyst > Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics > Yale School of Medicine > james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 > http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu > > PhD Student > Tetherless World Constellation > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > mccusj@cs.rpi.edu > http://tw.rpi.edu
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