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Re: PROV-ISSUE-142 (Tlebo): Can roles only be Literals? [Data Model]

From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 01:40:06 -0500
Message-ID: <CAAtgn=Tvwqx21cFZJ2YGLi2kqk=U+s0h0tokQdv-u6StWPDHPg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
If you're going to directly reference RDF Resource, just use the
accepted syntax for it (like you did with the other literals), which
is what I used.

Jim

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> It seems that you want to write
> "http://example.org/foo"^^rdf:resource
> or similar.
>
>
> Professor Luc Moreau
> Electronics and Computer Science
> University of Southampton
> Southampton SO17 1BJ
> United Kingdom
>
> On 8 Nov 2011, at 00:27, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>> wrote:
>
> These are syntactically RDF literals:
>
> "abc"
> "abc"@en
> "abc"^^xsd:string
> "1"^^xsd:int
> "http://example.org/foo"^^xsd:anyURI
>
> Maybe they're also PROV-DM literals, but then you should support the
> following URI "literals":
>
> <http://example.org>
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
> No Jim, they are prov-dm literals, "leaves" as you said.
> I thought you would map a prov-dm URi literal into an rdf resource.
>
> Professor Luc Moreau
> Electronics and Computer Science
> University of Southampton
> Southampton SO17 1BJ
> United Kingdom
>
> On 7 Nov 2011, at 23:35, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>> wrote:
>
> The examples are all RDF literals. I thought that we weren't using any
> RDF in the DM...
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Hi Tim, Stephan, Jim,
>
> Here is a first draft of the literal section.
>
> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#record-literal
>
> It would be good to have your feedback.
> If you find it's ok, than the literals examples in the document need to be
> checked.
>
> Cheers,
> Luc
>
> On 07/11/11 18:15, Jim McCusker wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Paolo Missier<Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk>>
>  wrote:
>
>
> DM says:
>
> 5.5.5 Literal
>
> Literals represent data values such as particular string or integers.
>
> My understanding is it's always been used in the standard grammar
> production
> meaning (eg: http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-2003-2.bnf.html#literal). Not
> so?
>
>
> I think a clearer definition would be:
>
> A Provenance Literal is a "leaf" value. It does not explicitly have
> any outgoing relations (in SW-ish: Is not a subject of any statement)
> in the PROV data model. Any outgoing relations from a Provenance
> Literal is out of scope for the PROV DM.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Jim McCusker
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> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
> Yale School of Medicine
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> Jim McCusker
> Programmer Analyst
> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
> Yale School of Medicine
> james.mccusker@yale.edu<mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu> | (203) 785-6330
> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu
>
> PhD Student
> Tetherless World Constellation
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu<mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu>
> http://tw.rpi.edu
>
>
>



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Jim McCusker
Programmer Analyst
Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
Yale School of Medicine
james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330
http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu

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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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