Re: [patwg-charter] jwrosewell: "primarily non-technical" -> "do not have any technical component" (#8)

@alextcone Privacy and competition are intrinsically related. I spent much of today at a [conference](https://www.cra-brusselsconference.com/home/Programme) related to competition where we heard many views from different regulators, and experts in the field. I heard nothing to dissuade me from my position.

Focusing our collective talents on creating methods to enable personal data of all types to be shared in the digital world with appropriate safe guards based on risks and choice is not the same thing as "spraying". Please stop implying that I'm arguing for the status quo and "spraying"; I'm not. 

Creating solutions that restrict access to information is no longer something that Google can do. The CMA are clear on this in their equivalency requirements. Therefore if we do not wish to splinter the web as the draft charter proposes then IPA and the like will not work in practice unless the CMA can be convinced they preserve competition. 

I sincerely hope regulation will come to Apple and that the web standards setting process will mature in due course. This might create an environment where a rationale discussion can occur in relation to proposals that enable the safe and lawful sharing of data. This involves rethinking privacy boundaries and I'm [publishing](https://github.com/privacycg/first-party-sets/pull/86) thoughts on how to do that. I recall a Google representative at the last PATCG meeting showed the spectrum of possibilities in a handy slide. We might wish to return to that on 5th April as we're really debating the policy for the group in this issue.

If I only listened to some web browser vendors, a narrow view from DPAs, and privacy absolutists then I would not conclude the above. I might reach the conclusion you do. Whilst I can understand those people's positions I can't understand why the representative of IAB TL would not be looking out for the majority of the IAB TL's member interests. Most members of IAB TL would find an upgrade to existing data sharing models preferable to rearchitecting the whole thing. Such an upgrade might also improve people's privacy in practice in a way that forced sign in, email address surrender, and wide spread sharing of so called first party data does not.

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