- From: Michael Schneider <schneid@fzi.de>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:05:34 +0100
- To: "Alan Ruttenberg" <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Cc: <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A06C225A@judith.fzi.de>
Alan Ruttenberg wrote: >Just a reminder that there is an outstanding action to draft >semantics for QCRs. I'd be quite interested in you pooling efforts >with Jeremy to make progress on this. >-Alan (Ah, my first day in the WG... :)) You certainly mean: "ACTION-48: Attempt Wiki sketch of QCR semantics OWL Full" It's marked as "overdue". Ok! Thanks for pointing me to this. This is of course a bit dependent on what the RDF syntax for QCRs will be in the end. Peter originally found a problem regarding OWL-Full in [1]. You (Alan) proposed a fix [2], and Peter made this into a proposal [3]. I later elaborated Peter's original observation into a detailed example which showed the semantic problems with the current QCR syntax for OWL-Full [4]. I also gave a second reason for changing the RDF syntax, not related to Full questions [5]. Later, I had a long discussion with Pat Hayes about alternative solutions for changing the RDF syntax [6] (Thread). Both, semantics and coherence of syntax related considerations brought me to the conclusion [7] that Peter's proposal [2] (perhaps with different naming of the proposed properties) is the right way to go. I have to note, however, that Jim Hendler and Pat Hayes argued against this approach for reasons which I do not fully understand, so I only give the cites here [8][9] without further commenting. To summarize: When the RDF syntax for QCRs changes effectively in the way Peter proposed in [2] (modulo naming), than Jeremy and I, in principle, could probably finish this action relatively soon. Nevertheless, from an OWL-Full development perspective, I would rather plea the WG that this action is dropped or freezed at the moment (whatever is formally possible), since it is really something like an "implementation detail" of the OWL-Full spec (I do not find a better name at the moment). Otherwise, we could bring up a big list of actions like: "Attempt Wiki sketch of ?x semantics OWL-Full" where '?x' stands for * sub property chains * asymmetric properties * self restrictions * data ranges * ... The Full-TF will first have to make certain decisions on overall concepts, before going into the details of specifying the semantics for specific features. Cheers, Michael [1] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Dec/0095.html> [2] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Dec/0105.html> [3] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Dec/0161.html> [4] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0227.html> [5] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0224.html> [6] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0248.html> [7] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0252.html> [8] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0240.html> [9] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007OctDec/0229.html> -- Dipl.-Inform. Michael Schneider FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik Karlsruhe Abtl. Information Process Engineering (IPE) Tel : +49-721-9654-726 Fax : +49-721-9654-727 Email: Michael.Schneider@fzi.de Web : http://www.fzi.de/ipe/eng/mitarbeiter.php?id=555 FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik an der Universität Karlsruhe Haid-und-Neu-Str. 10-14, D-76131 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49-721-9654-0, Fax: +49-721-9654-959 Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Az: 14-0563.1 Regierungspräsidium Karlsruhe Vorstand: Rüdiger Dillmann, Michael Flor, Jivka Ovtcharova, Rudi Studer Vorsitzender des Kuratoriums: Ministerialdirigent Günther Leßnerkraus
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