Re: [ontolex] Modellin collocations

Hi Thierry,

If I understood this right, in this case we are not dealing with
morpho-syntactic features of an entry when used in a specific
ontolex:LexicalSense (we would use lexicog:FormRestriction in that case),
but you just want to indicate that *živali* in *za živali* (in the MW
*bolnišnica
za živali* ) must be in accusative plural. If that is the case,  I am
wondering whether here we could just indicate that the second
decomp:subterm of *bolnišnica za živali* is the lexical entry *za*, and
describe that preposition by indicating that it assigns accusative case to
its nominal complements. At first it looks like the fact that *živali* is
in accusative plural depends mostly on the use of *za* (?). If so, the
restriction on *case* we are referring to is not particular to this MW,
but concerns the grammar of prepositions. For *bolnišnica za živali* a
potential way of encoding this information would be to list the components
in order and indicate at the :za lexical entry level that it requires
accusative (or turning to the synsem module to specify a
lexinfo:NounPPFrame to record that *bolnišnica *takes a PP headed by a *:za*
marker).

I am struggling with the *plural* feature and where to record this, though:
in Spanish,* estación de autobuses* (bus station) requires plural in *autobuses
(?? estación de autobús)*, but *parada de autobús *(bus stop) is used in
both singular and plural, probably because of the difference between a
"station" (always for more than one bus line) and a "stop" (for at least
one bus line). So I agree there should be a mechanism to represent
that *bolnišnica
*takes a za PP with a noun in plural, maybe this would be information to
address with synsem elements, as well?


What do you think?

Best,

Julia

El jue., 11 jul. 2019 a las 14:47, Thierry Declerck (<declerck@dfki.de>)
escribió:

> Dear All,
>
> I had just some sessions with Simon Krek on Slovenian Collocations/MWE
> and how to represent those in OntoLex-Lemon.
> I think for most of the data we have good solutions.
> Only a bit unclear to me how to model restrictions that are to be
> applied on a Collocation/MWE. An example is the expression "Hospital for
> Animals" (bolnišnica za živali {@slv}).
> On the third component of this expression there is a form restriction:
> it should be used only in accusative and plural.
> I would ot use the restriction mechanism described in Lexicog, but then
> the domain of the property would be a decomp:Component (and the range is
> a form, as foreseen)
> Another thing that could be useful: define the restrictions
> independently of a specific form. It would just list the two relevant
> aspect here: plural and accusative. Then we would need a mechamis that
> goes from the lemma to the corresponding form (the lemma, or headword,
> is given by the decomp:subterm property.
>
> Cheers
> Thierry
>
>

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Julia Bosque Gil
PhD Student
Ontology Engineering Group <http://www.oeg-upm.net/>
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid