Re: vartrans module finished

Dear Jorge,

  thanks for your very good comments. I comment how I have reacted to 
them below.

Am 03.07.15 um 12:31 schrieb Jorge Gracia:
> Dear Philipp, all,
>
> Thanks a lot for the effort, it looks great! I have a few comments, 
> though, most of them minor 
> (https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Final_Model_Specification):
>
> * I think it is preferable (and more compact) to define "source"  and 
> "target" as subproperties of "relates" rather than specifying again 
> their domain and range.
Changed.

>
> * The definition of "Lexical Relation" seems insufficient to me. Can 
> we complete it with the paragraph that are before the examples (or 
> part of it)?, i.e., "By lexical relations, we understand those 
> relations at the surface forms, mainly motivated by grammatical 
> requirements, style (Wortklang), and linguistic economy (helping to 
> avoid excessive denominative repetition and improving textual coherence)".

I have now rephrased the definition as follows:

"A lexical relation is a lexico-semantic relation that represents the 
relation between two lexical entries the surface forms of which are 
related grammatically, stylistically or by some operation motivated by 
linguistic economy."

OK?
>
> * The same for "Sense Relation" and the paragraph "Examples of 
> semantic relations are the equivalence relation between two senses, 
> hypernymy and hyponymy relations, synonymy, antonymy, etc."

I have changed the definition of sense relation as follows:

A sense relation is a lexico-semantic relation that represents the 
relation between two lexical senses the meanings of which are related.

The examples come after that....
>
> * In example "vartrans/example2", I'd use "source" and "target" 
> instead of "vartrans:relates". Hypernymy is a relation which has a 
> clear directionality.

Corrected.
>
> * In "Translation as a relation between lexical senses", there is a 
> typo "whic relates" -> "which relates"

Thanks, corrected
>
> * After the last telco's discussion, I thought that we were not 
> introducing the shortcut "translation" between senses: that is, we 
> were proposing three (and not four) ways of representing translation: 
> i) shared reference ii) translation reified relation, and iv) 
> translatableAs shortcut. Did I miss something? Which cases cannot be 
> covered by these three methods? Further, we are not following here our 
> internal rule of not using upper/lower-casing to distinguish between 
> class/property. Notice that we have to change the main diagram also, 
> if we introduce this new property.

I have commented on this already...
>
> * I noticed that the figures in examples 1-8 are not updated.
>
> Best regards,
> Jorge
>
>
>
>
> 2015-07-02 23:00 GMT+02:00 Philipp Cimiano 
> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de 
> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>      I finished the vartrans module and udpated the ontology and the
>     examples.
>
>     One thing: does anyone know how to encode the property chain for
>     the translation property using this helper axiom: Translation
>     equivalentClass ObjectHasSelf translationreflex
>
>     Please bear in mind that we will have no ontolex telco tomorrow,
>     but on the 10th of July to discuss the lime module.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Philipp._
>
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> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
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