RE: Welcome to Community Group on Ontology-Lexica

Dear Philipp,

sure, I read them just after sending the past email and found them very
clear and exhaustive (and also widened my idea of the scope and expected
outcomes of this CG which I got previously from [1]).
I plan to add at least one other in the next few days about language
supported mediation.
One question: is there any section we could add for reporting "what we
already have in OWL/SKOS/SKOSXL and we consider not enough for reasons: x,
y, z" ?
I mean something which is not a use case but which is quite understandable
as a modeling issue, and so we would like to see in the next version.
Dunno if we could write it directly to the Requirements section...

Cheers,

Armando


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:34 PM
> To: Armando Stellato
> Cc: public-ontolex@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Welcome to Community Group on Ontology-Lexica
> 
> Armando,
> 
>   thanks for the introduction. This is indeed very interesting and
> relevant. It looks like a good opportunity to exploit the connection to
> FAO to come
> up with interesting and realistic use cases for the CG.
> 
> Have you looked at the use cases on the website so far? Do you have any
> comments on them or any proposals for other use cases from your
> experience with FAO or other projects?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Philipp.
> 
> Am 19.10.11 15:27, schrieb Armando Stellato:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm a post-doctoral researcher at the Artificial Intelligence
> Research Group
> > of the University of Rome Tor Vergata. My Phd thesis was on "
> Alignment and
> > Mediation of Distributed Information Sources in the Semantic Web" and
> based
> > on the hypothesis that shareability and integration should be
> supported from
> > the early development stage of ontologies, when "linguistically
> motivated"
> > conceptual resources can better explain themselves both for machines
> (more
> > linguistic anchors -->  easier automatic matching/mapping) and humans
> > (informal lexical descriptions help to restrict the range of
> interpretations
> > given by humans even beyond those imposed by the formal
> restrictions).
> >
> > I'm also consultant for the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
> of the
> > United Nations, and actively working on:
> > 1) porting to Linked Open Data of their vocabularies and thesauri
> (AGROVOC,
> > BIOTECH) and data, moving to RDF from their legacy models. The last
> SKOS-XL
> > incarnation of AGROVOC is currently on the LOD Cloud
> > 2) supporting development of Collaborative (Multilingual) Thesauri
> Editing
> > tools
> >
> > In my research and work, I've "felt" need for more elaborated onto-
> lexica
> > standards and inadequateness of current standards from many
> perspectives. In
> > particular, to give one which has not always been underlined:
> >  From an engineering point, we need ways to easily reuse the many
> different
> > existing lexical resource models and to be able to cover them under a
> > unifying umbrella.
> > Ontology Developers should get tools capable of easily importing
> information
> > from arbitrary lexical resources and be able to link their resources
> to
> > these lexical entries, from mere words, which may "lose contact" with
> the
> > resource they come from, to other identifiers which may need to
> preserve
> > their original nature, such as synsets for wordnet. While the idea of
> using
> > wordnet-synsets (just an example) as an interlingua may be fool,
> surely two
> > ontologies explicitly linked through these identifiers may rely on a
> less
> > ambiguous common (sill linguistic) ground for communicating.
> > To avoid confusion: this does not cover the realization of a new
> lexicon
> > model (which, following [1], is out of the scope of this WG) but of a
> proper
> > onto-linguistic interface covering issues such as:
> > 1) proper wrapping (least possible information loss) of existing
> resources
> > 2) linking conceptual resources (OWL, SKOS ones) to them
> > and the standardization of vocabularies for making these wraps/links
> > official.
> > Some of my works [2, inside that, pointers to previous ones] are
> related to
> > the above aspects.
> >
> > The work with FAO can possibly provide test scenarios, and I would be
> > tempted to provide the first release of a widely known resource such
> as
> > AGROVOC by remodeling it according to the very last model for onto-
> lexica
> > integration and, most of all, to support development for this
> language
> > through FAO and TorVergata tools (see vocbench [3] and Semantic
> Turkey [4])
> > In our experience, SKOS (and in particular, the SKOS-XL extension
> foreseeing
> > reified labels) has satisfied many of our requirements, though I
> still feel
> > unsatisfied about a few aspects which still seem to diminish the
> linguistic
> > relevance in knowledge modeling (no details here, time for discussion
> in the
> > future :-) ).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Armando Stellato
> >
> > [1]
> > http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Goals_and_Scope_of_Ontology-
> Lexica_
> > Community_Group (section Scope)
> >
> > [2] Maria Teresa Pazienza, Armando Stellato, Andrea Turbati
> Linguistic
> > Watermark 3.0: an RDF framework and a software library for bridging
> language
> > and ontologies in the Semantic Web. Semantic Web Applications and
> > Perspectives, 5th Italian Semantic Web Workshop (SWAP2008) FAO-UN,
> Rome,
> > Italy, 15-17 December, 2008
> >
> http://art.uniroma2.it/publications/docs/2008_SWAP2008_LinguisticWaterm
> ark3.
> > 0.pdf
> >
> > [3] http://aims.fao.org/tools/vocbench-2
> >
> > [4] http://semanticturkey.uniroma2.it/
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-ontolex-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ontolex-
> >> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Philipp Cimiano
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:42 AM
> >> To: public-ontolex@w3.org
> >> Subject: Welcome to Community Group on Ontology-Lexica
> >>
> >> Dear members of the Ontology-Lexica Community Group (resending this
> >> email with an appropriate Subject),
> >>
> >> First of all, the chairs would like to welcome to everybody on this
> >> list. We have by now 29 members in the group, which is very nice. I
> >> think it would be nice if everybody could write a brief email
> >> introducing themselves and mentioning sth. about their background,
> what
> >> they are working on and why they are interested in this group. This
> >> would help everybody to get a feeling for the members of the group.
> >>
> >> Further, we have started to produce some preliminary material for
> the
> >> group. As you know, there is a wiki (MediaWiki) that we can all use
> to
> >> work together.
> >>
> >> i) You will find the statement of the mission of the group here:
> >>
> http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Goals_and_Scope_of_Ontology-
> >> Lexica_Community_Group
> >>
> >> ii) You will find a proposal for a schedule that we can use to
> >> structure
> >> our work. This needs to be thoroughly discussed at one of our first
> >> telcos. The proposal of the chairs and other involved people is to
> >> start
> >> defining use cases from which we can derive requirements on the
> model
> >> later. I think this is a very pragmatic way of kicking of the work
> that
> >> will help us to stay focused and concrete.
> >>
> >> iii) We have already added a few use cases that I think are relevant
> >> and
> >> that the ontology-lexicon model should support:
> >> http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Specification_of_Use_Cases;
> >> comments are of course welcome. If you have comments on the format
> of
> >> the use case descriptions, please let me know. I think it is
> important
> >> that we have some common format for these use case descriptions and
> I
> >> do
> >> think that it is important to make these use cases as concrete as
> >> possible (also with concrete examples) to facilitate discussion.
> >>
> >> Our plan is to have a first teleconference to kick-off the work of
> this
> >> group. We will arrange this for end of October/early November at the
> >> very latest.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, I would really appreciate if everybody could
> introduce
> >> themselves.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Philipp.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
> >> Semantic Computing Group
> >> Excellence Cluster - Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
> >> University of Bielefeld
> >>
> >> Phone: +49 521 106 12249
> >> Fax: +49 521 106 12412
> >> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
> >>
> >> Room H-127
> >> Morgenbreede 39
> >> 33615 Bielefeld
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
> Semantic Computing Group
> Excellence Cluster - Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
> University of Bielefeld
> 
> Phone: +49 521 106 12249
> Fax: +49 521 106 12412
> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
> 
> Room H-127
> Morgenbreede 39
> 33615 Bielefeld

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