Re: Party: Assignee=everyone

Hi Cindy,

I wonder if 'public' has unintended connotations that 'everyone' doesn't? i.e., 'everyone' is exactly that, whereas 'public' implies an (undefined) subset of everyone?

M.

On  2013-Sep-19, at 14:36, Cindy Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com>
 wrote:

> Could we use "Public" as the vocabulary word or fixed ID for "everyone"? 
> 
> All other "fixed" ids of interest would all be concerned with people permissioned by the Assignee. For example, a "subscriber" or an "endorser"
> 
> Some possible fixed ids:
> Public
> Subscriber
> Endorser
> Licensee
> 
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Mo McRoberts wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>> 
>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>> 
>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>> 
>> :everyone a :All ;
>>  rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>>  vs:term_status "testing" ;
>>  rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>>  rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>> 
>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>> 
>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus. 
>> 
>> M.
>> 
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>> From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Party: Assignee=everyone
>> Date: September 19, 2013 8:52:40 AM EDT
>> To: Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com>
>> Cc: "<public-odrl@w3.org>" <public-odrl@w3.org>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>> 
>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>> 
>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>> 
>> :everyone a :All ;
>>  rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>>  vs:term_status "testing" ;
>>  rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>>  rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>> 
>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>> 
>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus. 
>> 
>> M.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development,
>> Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
>> MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
>> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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  • From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:48:44 +0000
  • Subject: Re: Party: Assignee=everyone
  • To: Cindy Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com>
  • CC: "<public-odrl@w3.org> Group" <public-odrl@w3.org>
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Hi Cindy,

I wonder if 'public' has unintended connotations that 'everyone' doesn't? i.e., 'everyone' is exactly that, whereas 'public' implies an (undefined) subset of everyone?

M.

On  2013-Sep-19, at 14:36, Cindy Lewis <cindy.lewis@me.com>
 wrote:

> Could we use "Public" as the vocabulary word or fixed ID for "everyone"? 
> 
> All other "fixed" ids of interest would all be concerned with people permissioned by the Assignee. For example, a "subscriber" or an "endorser"
> 
> Some possible fixed ids:
> Public
> Subscriber
> Endorser
> Licensee
> 
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Mo McRoberts wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>> 
>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>> 
>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>> 
>> :everyone a :All ;
>> 	rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>> 	vs:term_status "testing" ;
>> 	rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>> 	rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>> 
>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>> 
>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus. 
>> 
>> M.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development,
>> Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
>> MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
>> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E
>> 
>> 
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>> From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Party: Assignee=everyone
>> Date: September 19, 2013 8:52:40 AM EDT
>> To: Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com>
>> Cc: "<public-odrl@w3.org>" <public-odrl@w3.org>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On  2013-Sep-19, at 13:38, Renato Iannella <ri@semanticidentity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 01:42, Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This sounds like something perhaps could be added to the vocabulary to indicate the conceptual Party representing 'everyone' and which can be used as a @uid wherever that's needed?
>>> 
>>> We could...what would it look like?...and are there other "fixed" ids of interest?
>> 
>> In the RDF variant, we'd express it as a named individual, something like
>> 
>> :everyone a :All ;
>> 	rdfs:isDefinedBy odrl: ;
>> 	vs:term_status "testing" ;
>> 	rdfs:label "Everyone"@en ;
>> 	rdfs:comment "This is a pre-defined party which can be used when explicitly referring to the set of all possible parties"@en .
>> 
>> I'm not sure how it works in the XSD, I'm even less of an expert there :)
>> 
>> I'm not sure about fixed IDs for parties, once we've done one adding others should be technically easy if there's consensus. 
>> 
>> M.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mo McRoberts - Analyst - BBC Archive Development,
>> Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
>> MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
>> 0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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Zone 1.08, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA,
MC3 D6, Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ,
0141 422 6036 (Internal: 01-26036) - PGP key CEBCF03E

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