- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:41:11 +0100
- To: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
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Thanks a lot, Tadej. I tried to update http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#disambiguation-global and the schemas. This should close action-338. Best, Felix Am 30.11.12 15:04, schrieb Tadej Stajner: > Hi, I suggest the following. It mirrors the functionality in the local > part, but in the spirit of only using pointers as is usually done in > global rules. > > -- Tadej > > [ > > * > > A required |selector| attribute that contains an absolute selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > which selects the nodes to which this rule applies. > > * > > An optional |disambigGranularity| attribute that contains a > string, specifying the granularity level of the disambiguation. > The value MUST > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#rfc2119> > be one of the following identifiers: "lexicalConcept", > "ontologyConcept", or "entity". The default value is "entity". > > * > > At least one of the following: > > o > > To specify the target type class, exactly one of the following: > > + > > A |disambigClassPointer| attribute that contains a > relative selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > pointing to a node specifying the type of entity or > concept class behind the selector. > > + > > A |disambigClassRefPointer| attribute that contains a > relative selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > pointing to a node that holds an IRI that specifies the > type of entity or concept class behind the selector. > > o > > To specify the target identity, exactly one of the following: > > + > > When using the addressing mode 1 > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#disambiguation-use-cases>: > > # > > A |disambigSourcePointer| attribute that contains a > relative selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > to a node that holds the string representing the > disambiguation identifier collection source. > > # > > A |disambigIdentPointer| attribute that contains a > relative selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > to a node that holds the string, representing the > disambiguation identifier for the disambiguation > target that is valid within the specified > disambiguation source. > > + > > When using the addressing mode 2 > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#disambiguation-use-cases>: > > # > > A |disambigIdentRefPointer| attribute that contains a > relative selector > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> > pointing to a node that holds an IRI that represents a > unique identifier for the disambiguation target. > > ] > > On 11/29/2012 5:27 PM, Felix Sasaki wrote: >> Hi all, esp. Mārcis and Tadej (since there are questions for you below), >> >> see the minutes from today's editing call here >> >> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html >> >> and below. Two important questions >> >> 1) Esp. for Mārcis: can you have a look at >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0254.html >> question no 2), and tell us what you think? >> >> 2) Esp. for Tadej: you said that in the global section of >> disambiguation we should add disambigSource >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0234.html >> but we realized that we don't know how. In the global section there >> is no mention of "mode 1" and "mode ". >> >> Can you re-write the definition of global in disambiguation >> >> [ >> >> * >> >> A required |selector| attribute that contains an absolute >> selector >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> >> which selects the nodes to which this rule applies. >> >> * >> >> An optional |disambigGranularity| attribute that contains a >> string, specifying the granularity level of the disambiguation. >> The value MUST >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#rfc2119> >> be one of the following identifiers: "lexicalConcept", >> "ontologyConcept", or "entity". The default value is "entity". >> >> * >> >> At least one of the following: >> >> o >> >> To specify the target type class, exactly one of the following: >> >> + >> >> A |disambigClassPointer| attribute that contains a >> relative selector >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> >> pointing to a node specifying the type of entity or >> concept class behind the selector. >> >> + >> >> A |disambigClassRefPointer| attribute that contains a >> relative selector >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> >> pointing to a node that holds an IRI that specifies the >> type of entity or concept class behind the selector. >> >> o >> >> To specify the target identity, exactly one of the following: >> >> + >> >> A |disambigIdentPointer| attribute that contains a >> relative selector >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> >> pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier >> for the disambiguation target. >> >> + >> >> A |disambigIdentRefPointer| attribute that contains a >> relative selector >> <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors> >> pointing to a node that holds an IRI that represents a >> unique identifier for the disambiguation target. >> >> >> ] >> >> so that the two modes and disambigSource are in here? >> >> Having that by Friday end of business day would be great. We then >> would be finished with the normative parts of the draft. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Felix >> >> >> [1]W3C >> >> [1]http://www.w3.org/ >> >> - DRAFT - >> >> MLW-LT editing call >> >> 29 Nov 2012 >> >> See also: [2]IRC log >> >> [2]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc >> >> Attendees >> >> Present >> dave, felix, jirka, tadej, karl, Yves_ >> >> Regrets >> Chair >> felix >> >> Scribe >> fsasaki >> >> Contents >> >> * [3]Topics >> 1. [4]questions from yesterday >> 2. [5]8.13 External Resource >> 3. [6]8.14 Target Pointer >> 4. [7]8.15 Id Value >> 5. [8]8.16 Preserve Space >> 6. [9]8.17 Localization Quality Issue >> 7. [10]8.18 Localization Quality Rating >> 8. [11]validation of example files >> 9. [12]8.19 MT Confidence >> 10. [13]back to rating data category >> 11. [14]allowed characters + storage size (again) >> 12. [15]going back to rating value >> 13. [16]spec editing topics >> 14. [17]disambigSourcePointer >> * [18]Summary of Action Items >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> <scribe> scribe: fsasaki >> >> questions from yesterday >> >> dave sent out mail to confirm confidence score for terminology, >> as discussed yesterday >> >> <Yves_> FWIW: we'll implement confidence it in Okapi in needed >> >> now on action-339 >> >> provRef as single URI or list of URI? >> >> "Reference to external provenance information" >> >> "AN IRI" > "A space separated list of IRIs" >> >> <Yves_> then the examples need to be changed too >> >> <Yves_> I reduced them all to a single IRI >> >> "A space (U+0020) separated list of IRIs" >> >> Yves_, currently changing just one example - >> EX-provenance-local-1.xml, to have a space separated list >> >> 8.13 External Resource >> >> nothing on external resource, it seems >> >> 8.14 Target Pointer >> >> nothing on target pointer, it seems >> >> 8.15 Id Value >> >> mail from fredrik >> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb- >> lt/2012Nov/0250.html >> >> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0250.html >> >> <Yves_> +1 for Jirka's comment >> >> changing the id value section to say: "If the attribute xml:id >> is present or id in HTML for the selected node, the value of >> the xml:id attribute or id in HTML MUST take precedence over >> the idValue value." >> >> that's everyting on id value section, it seems >> >> <Yves_> One note for later (Storage Size section): "Dominican >> Replubic" should Dominican Republic" in example >> EX-storageSize-html5-local-1.html >> >> Applying the id value data category to xml:id (in XML) or id >> (in HTML) attributes in global rules is not necessary since >> those attributes are ... >> >> Yves_, thanks, we will take that up later, now 8.16 Preserve >> Space >> >> 8.16 Preserve Space >> >> added a link from "xml:space" to >> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space >> >> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space >> >> 8.17 Localization Quality Issue >> >> "locQualityIssuesRefPointer, do not apply to HTML" > >> locQualityIssuesRefPointer does not apply to HTML >> >> "ITS 2.0-compliant tools that use these categories" > "ITS >> 2.0-compliant tools that use these types" >> >> "their internal categories" > "their internal types" >> >> replacing other occurences of "categories" with "types" >> >> 8.18 Localization Quality Rating >> >> felix: looks fine >> >> dave: changed after yesterday's discussion >> >> <Yves_> I have to leave for the office now. I may be back >> online in 20/30 mn (depending on how many coyotes I have to >> fend off on the bike path) >> >> thanks, bye, Yves_ >> >> validation of example files >> >> jirka: did add a target for validation >> ... need someone to fix the errors >> >> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng >> validation [recorded in >> [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01] >> >> <trackbot> Created ACTION-340 - Check examples found by relax >> ng validation [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06]. >> >> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html >> examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in >> [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02] >> >> <trackbot> Created ACTION-341 - check syntax highlighting of >> html examples with focus on quotes [on Felix Sasaki - due >> 2012-12-31]. >> >> jirka: now have created xml validation, after last call >> publication will work on html validation >> >> 8.19 MT Confidence >> >> going through the three sections 8.19 MT Confidence, 8.20 >> Allowed Characters, 8.21 Storage size >> >> dave: for the example EX-mtConfidence-global-html5-1.html would >> be good to have an example with two different attributes with >> text content, in the same element >> ... e.g. title and alt in an image >> >> <scribe> ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as >> described in >> [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31 >> december [recorded in >> [24]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03] >> >> [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 >> >> <trackbot> Created ACTION-342 - create mt confidence score >> example as described in >> [25]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 on David >> Lewis - due 2012-12-31]. >> >> [25]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 >> >> back to rating data category >> >> jirka: in spec the locQualityRatingScore value is between 0 and >> 100 >> ... yestedays call we said between 0 and 1 >> ... which one is true? >> >> <scribe> ACTION: felix to check with yves whether >> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100 >> [recorded in >> [26]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04] >> >> <trackbot> Created ACTION-343 - Check with yves whether >> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100 >> [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06]. >> >> action-343: also relevant for locQualityRatingScoreThreshold >> >> <trackbot> ACTION-343 Check with yves whether >> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100 >> notes added >> >> allowed characters + storage size (again) >> >> allowed characters looks fine >> >> "nel for NEXT LINE (U+0085)" - need to check code for nel >> >> seems to be correct >> >> went through all data categories, only topic left is >> locQualityRatingScore value, see above >> >> going back to rating value >> >> yves: phil mentioned that des wanted something between 0-100 >> ... from my point of view it doesn't matter >> ... that is, the spec would be right, I didn't change it >> >> spec editing topics >> >> yve: val and quote have strange behavior >> >> "A disambigIdentPointer attribute that contains a relative >> selector pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier >> for the disambiguation target." plus disambigSourcePointer >> >> <scribe> ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm >> position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in >> [27]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05] >> >> <trackbot> Created ACTION-344 - Write mail today to tadej to >> confirm position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [on >> Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06]. >> >> disambigSourcePointer >> >> <fsasaki_> need to check with tadej about this >> >> Summary of Action Items >> >> [NEW] ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as >> described in >> [28]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31 >> december [recorded in >> [29]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03] >> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng >> validation [recorded in >> [30]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01] >> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html >> examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in >> [31]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02] >> [NEW] ACTION: felix to check with yves whether >> locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100 >> [recorded in >> [32]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04] >> [NEW] ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm >> position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in >> [33]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05] >> >> [28]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 >> >> [End of minutes] >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> >> Minutes formatted by David Booth's [34]scribe.perl version >> 1.137 ([35]CVS log) >> $Date: 2012-11-29 15:31:06 $ >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> [34]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm >> [35]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ >> >> Scribe.perl diagnostic output >> >> [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] >> This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.137 of Date: 2012/09/20 20:19:01 >> Check for newer version at [36]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ >> scribe/ >> >> [36]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ >> >> Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) >> >> Succeeded: s/0-1/0-100/ >> Found Scribe: fsasaki >> Inferring ScribeNick: fsasaki >> Present: dave felix jirka tadej karl Yves_ >> Got date from IRC log name: 29 Nov 2012 >> Guessing minutes URL: [37]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.ht >> ml >> People with action items: davel felix >> >> [37]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html >> >> >> End of [38]scribe.perl diagnostic output] >> >> [38]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm >> >> >
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