Re: Proposal: expanding/modifying Guideline 2.1 and its SCs (2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3) to cover Touch+AT

Yes all of this is not surprising at all.

I don’t know what it has to do with the topic at hand however. It doesn’t change the discussion or arguments or importance of the keyboard access provision. Nor does it change the fact that any other device independent commands should be a separate success criteria.

Any really advanced technology will be programmed to interact directly with the content in the most efficient way that it can. 
Screen readers are another example where the access is direct it does not go through  the keyboard interface.

This does not have anything to do with other types of ATV which function only through the keyboard interface. For example a sip and puff interface.

The keyboard interface provision is not there because it is the only way anything controls things. Is there because it is the only way some things can have access to the content.

ciao 

gregg

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> wrote:
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> On 11/07/2016 13:10, Jonathan Avila wrote:
>> FWIW.  I've seen on IE with Dragon cases where speaking text into an input field results in the value being programmatically set without keystrokes be fired.
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> Oh, interesting. I've just checked using https://patrickhlauke.github.io/touch/tests/event-listener-keyevents-text-input.html and indeed, once focus is in the text field, I can dictate letters (like "A", "B", "C" etc) but (with exception of explicit "PRESS SPACE" commands), the keydown/keyup JavaScript events that are being fired lack the necessary "key" property. When dictating entire words, only a single keydown and keyup event (again, missing any "key" property) are being fired. So you're right, even in these situations, Dragon isn't actually emulating a proper keyboard (only when explicitly doing things like "PRESS A, PRESS B, PRESS C")
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